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Speaker 2 00:01:28 I love Fridays. Cause it's time to relax. Maybe go do some grass or to spin in some tracks, maybe hang with your crew and drink beers to the max. I love Fridays cause Fridays where it's at Friday morning and the sun is shining. Thinking about ladies, just standing there playing season tonight. Will I be whining and dining?
Speaker 0 00:01:48 Tell you what Azzie I have been enjoying a particular type of cheeky monkey beer lately. What about yourself?
Speaker 3 00:01:53 Yes. I have really been froing on the cheeky monkey XBO uh, it comes in at 4.8%. I just really find it fucking tasty,
Speaker 0 00:02:05 Tasty as
Speaker 3 00:02:06 Really tasty enough body in there to make me feel like I'm not drinking some piss week watery beer, but uh, not over the top either. I can have a couple. And, uh, what's
Speaker 0 00:02:17 The alcohol
Speaker 3 00:02:18 Mate? Yeah. Uh, I think I just said 4.8, but uh, I think it's 4.8. Very
Speaker 0 00:02:24 Sessionable.
Speaker 3 00:02:25 Yeah, it is. And made it's, uh, described as citrus clean and fresh. Uh, it's got a bit of pine in there is the aroma and in beer speak, they claim it's uncomplicated and on point and I couldn't agree more really fucking like their SBA. It's my favorite cheeky monkey beer at the moment. And uh, I just like the, after it leaves in your mouth,
Speaker 0 00:02:45 There you go. Ripped a little off one. Yep.
Speaker 3 00:02:47 Beauty
Speaker 0 00:02:48 Once again. We're back in the studio, the she quarters. And I think that as he's got a little, a special little treat from Forester estate wines.
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Speaker 0 00:03:04 That's two decades.
Speaker 3 00:03:05 That is, that is two decades, mate. Uh, they've jumped on board to support barrel surf podcast and mate, uh, be made out there Rileys. It's given us a quality 2019 home block shun. Uh, it's got a bunch of S on it and had just won the best char ass at the Royal Perth show. So, uh, I don't know how many wines are in there. I think it's 780 that I could be making that figure up, but, uh, mate, it definitely won the best char ass. Nice. And, uh, mate Forester estate are awesome. Make bloody good wines. They're supporting us. So if, uh, any barrel surf gurus out there are, uh, looking for a red wine next time you're in the bottle of go for some Forester
Speaker 0 00:03:45 Hook into it.
Speaker 1 00:04:04 Welcome
Speaker 0 00:04:05 Surf podcast. It is NA here with you. It is Friday in the Southwest, a beautiful sunny afternoon. Once more down this way and tell you what, we've got a special treat for you listeners out there, brow surf podcast, coming to you from the headquarters. We were gonna be having a live show tonight. Didn't quite come off, but second best thing, we have some of the talent that we're gonna be on the live show in the she quarter tonight, we got a bunch of Akins out the back, listening to us and watching us too. Anyone there.
Speaker 4 00:04:34 Yay.
Speaker 0 00:04:38 Here we go. So I am AB sorely wrapped to be able to work welcome Jackson baker. Hello mates. Thanks
Speaker 4 00:04:44 For having me boys,
Speaker 0 00:04:48 Molly. Pickling. Welcome to sheko Molly.
Speaker 4 00:04:51 Thank you.
Speaker 0 00:04:52 Last but not least. Glen micro hall. Welcome micro
Speaker 4 00:04:56 Micro. Thank you.
Speaker 0 00:04:58 I mess that one up as usual to my left of T-bone in the she quarter. Hello mates.
Speaker 4 00:05:03 You <laugh> have any mids.
Speaker 5 00:05:09 Second one
Speaker 0 00:05:09 Azzie instead of a carnival atmosphere in here by looks bit and also a Kennedy. Hello? Azzie
Speaker 3 00:05:14 Hello, everyone.
Speaker 0 00:05:17 Pretty
Speaker 3 00:05:17 Excited to be here with some of our,
Speaker 4 00:05:20 Uh,
Speaker 3 00:05:21 Faithful listeners who have, uh, we frothing for the live show. We just sort bugger it. Let's simplify, go to the shed quarter and, uh, have a few beers in a Barbie and uh, yeah, we're very lucky and fortunate to have some of the world's elite joining us in here for barrel to podcast. We're
Speaker 0 00:05:37 Frothing. Yes. Stoked.
Speaker 5 00:05:39 You mentioned faithful listeners, whether our mums, uh, did mums get the invoice
Speaker 0 00:05:44 Or they did, but they, they politely declined said no way. I am. Namo Stok to be here with you on the barrel surf podcast. And first of all, Molly, welcome.
Speaker 6 00:05:56 Thanks for
Speaker 4 00:05:57 Having me
Speaker 0 00:05:57 Your first time as a CT surfer in Margaret river.
Speaker 6 00:06:00 Yes. Um, I think it's an incredible part of the coast wa and um, yeah, actually I was fortunate enough to get here when I was young in a QS and, um, to draw on that experience and to feel that wild west was definitely a bonus back then to then draw upon that when I get back here for the CT event.
Speaker 0 00:06:18 Awesome. So been getting a couple of little splashes out there.
Speaker 6 00:06:21 Yeah. I've been fortunate where I was here for the last four or five days. So I've spent a bunch of time out margs main break and it's definitely a wild wave, but it's challenging and that excites me. So I'm pretty, yeah. Awesome.
Speaker 0 00:06:32 Preed did I see a bit of footage of the box?
Speaker 6 00:06:34 Yeah, I did go out the box or one little session. I was con coffin actually took me out there and um, showed me a few little things and yeah, I was Stok to get out there and some of the boys let me get a couple, which was nice of them, so, oh,
Speaker 0 00:06:48 See
Speaker 3 00:06:49 <laugh>
Speaker 0 00:06:51 I saw the footage. That was absolutely no, no, uh, absolutely charging. It was essentially what I saw, so yeah. Good on you. Thank you. There's no way I'm getting out there. <laugh> the box. Kidding me. On my back hand. Literally kill myself. <laugh> um, so any other sessions you, when did you get over here?
Speaker 6 00:07:08 Uh, I flew in on the 17th.
Speaker 0 00:07:10 Yeah. Awesome.
Speaker 6 00:07:11 So, yeah, so I've been here for a couple days.
Speaker 0 00:07:13 Yeah. Good stuff. So at this point in the, uh, process micro, are you doing your coaching or letting Molly get on with that and get a couple of surfs under belt?
Speaker 7 00:07:21 Yeah, I guess the, the pre-event kinda preparation all, you know, based off Molly, hasn't been serving main break too often. So between that and trying to encourage her to get out the box and, and then just, you know, dial in the boards and figuring out what size and, and then within that, working with what ways you got in front, like was three main break when it could be 12 next week. So you work what you got, but no everyone's doing
Speaker 0 00:07:47 Well. Yeah, no, doesn't really look like any box. Um, in the forecast you have thought got the, we won't mention on the, on the
Speaker 7 00:07:59 Going up. No south
Speaker 0 00:08:01 <laugh> south, south,
Speaker 7 00:08:04 South.
Speaker 0 00:08:05 Yeah. South. No, <laugh> Hey.
Speaker 3 00:08:07 I mean, I know we've got a big cold front, uh, coming next week, so it's gonna be big and onshore. Um, I mean, long range, you never trust the long range bang on about that last potty, about how inaccurate they can be. And obviously bells forecast sort of showed that, um, pretty clearly last comp didn't it? It was looking crap and then turned good. So there definitely is a big cold front coming. I, I think we know that for sure. But, um, long range actually is some, some pretty good clean days, right. At the end of the window, which could be like epic box or big clean Margie. So definitely worth getting out there. Um, did you make any pits out there, Molly at the box? Did you get spat out of any?
Speaker 6 00:08:44 I didn't get spa out of any outta the box. No, but I did get a couple crazy takeoffs and was stuck to get to the channel and not die. <laugh> so, I mean, I, for me that was productive and successful. Yeah. But, um, to get that potentially by ourselves as females and kind of follow that trend of pipe and chokes and box, it's like all in the same realm and um, yeah, I think it's incredible that that is potentially on the cards for the women and yeah. Hopefully I can get spa out of a Box.
Speaker 3 00:09:13 Yeah. You get a look for those backdoor ones. Not that I would know. I don't think anyone in this shed would know <laugh>, but that's what I've been told. You get the, you get the ones that are like, it's got a, you know, who would know this guy in the hat here, ducky, he's a mad charging, um, body border. And he would've been in the absolute debts, uh, in the guts of a 10 footer out the box. So need a backdoor at day ducky. Look for those ones with a, with a big west ramp. Is that right? You, the north push in it,
Speaker 6 00:09:43 Get a nicer chip
Speaker 8 00:09:43 In head
Speaker 3 00:09:45 And just hold on for your dear life. But
Speaker 6 00:09:47 Can we explain a chip in, but
Speaker 8 00:09:49 A chip in it's like a Merry falls?
Speaker 3 00:09:52 No, no. There is a chip in isn't there ducky. You've gotta look for 'em but cause you don't get one they're
Speaker 6 00:09:57 For
Speaker 3 00:09:58 Sure. Gotta wait and be patient ducky reckons. So I dunno how you fit that in into a 20 minute window, but <laugh> anyway. Yeah, coach ducky on that one,
Speaker 0 00:10:08 Build a house, mate. Just build
Speaker 3 00:10:09 A house. Hey, um, what's your quiver look like Molly? What's your, I mean, or you guys ride such small boards when, when we, we would be reaching for big boards. I mean Margie's is a big board wave or can be mm-hmm <affirmative> if you go out there at six o'clock on any given morning, you can see the length of board out there from all the old boys, but yes. How what's the biggest board you board over?
Speaker 6 00:10:28 Uh, so I'm fortunate enough to get shaped by Darren Hanley. He does a bunch of my boards and we worked through a few boards in sunset. So I've brought those over, which the biggest is a six, four. Um, and then it goes six, two. So I guess they're not very long for you guys, but that's definitely a big step up for myself, but um, yeah, six, four is the longest.
Speaker 0 00:10:50 If it does get 15 foot as he's got a shared full of boards here, as he can say, I'm sure
Speaker 6 00:10:54 I'll actually mean scope and outta here. Yeah. I've got options that's for sure.
Speaker 5 00:10:59 Well, if it goes to Margaret river, uh, the rights, um, how you feeling on your, on your forehand? Like I know you had a, you surf really well on your forehand, you like you had done really well at sunset. How are you feeling about Mar's right. Have you had much time when you said you came over before?
Speaker 6 00:11:14 Uh, I actually never surfed Muggs. Right. All left that main break at all since like, this is my first time this trip. Um, but the righthander I think it definitely has its pros and cons and it is a challenging wave and I'm yet to learn those challenges, I think. So it'll be a full, flexible, clean slate of just trying to adapt to whatever that wave throws at me and the, that excites me to be honest, cuz when you're in kinda behind the ball in a sense, it makes you step up to that level. So yeah. It's exciting.
Speaker 5 00:11:44 You both, like, I was just looking at your results earlier on today and I mean you've knocked off some big names and even though you're probably not up on the ratings, but you've, you've taken some big scallops, uh, and obviously come short, you know, in, in, in some of the comps you must have some confidence that, you know, you can, you can beat like Carissa and, and Sally and, and some of those big names, you must have some confidence even though you may have not gone your way. Yeah. So
Speaker 6 00:12:09 Yeah, I think definitely when you beat names like you, the people who I have this year, but I think also it's the situation they put us in for myself personally, whenever you're ever seeing big names like that, you kind of go into it and you're not against Chrisa or S step against the two sixes or the two eights that they've put up against you. So, um, I've been fortunate enough that they put two tens on me yet. So <laugh>, I was able to get up a little bit and two sixes and beat them. So yeah. Um, yeah, I definitely think, um, I do believe I can match their surfing and be on this tour, but as the results of sharing it, hasn't all looked at that, but I do carry confidence through
Speaker 0 00:12:47 Confidence. I think everyone here in this shed, that's what she's so far reckons you're absolutely belonging. This tour can't wait, you know, even if whatever happens coming up with many more years on the tour and uh, yeah. Data air game that you bring to it and that hard charging sort of philosophy, excited to watch so on.
Speaker 6 00:13:08 Thanks guys
Speaker 5 00:13:09 Did 2020, was it 2021 sort of forget how the years roll on. But you went from, that was year to the challenger onto the CT in the one year.
Speaker 6 00:13:19 Yeah. That's how they, that's how the new format will work.
Speaker 5 00:13:22 Were you doing the challenges, uh, sorry, the, uh, QS before that, like leading up to it or you just had one year where you've gone QS challenger. Yeah. Onto the C.
Speaker 6 00:13:31 It was actually funny because mine was broken up because I was competing on the QS, um, the old format. So I went to China and went to other places that had a few higher star QS ratings. And, um, that actually made me qualify for the challenges that next year when they changed the format and started. So, um, then it just looked like I cracked it in one year and went challenges to, but kind of it took a little bit, but I was on the QS and then my challenges and so on. Yeah. But that was actually over three years because it stopped for us. The challenges didn't exist. Yeah.
Speaker 0 00:14:09 Um, have you sort of in Molly's and, and what sort of brought you guys together?
Speaker 7 00:14:16 Uh, we're fortunate enough to live pretty close together at home. She's
Speaker 0 00:14:20 Seka, right?
Speaker 7 00:14:20 I'm Aoke and Molly was at, um, she was from around Shelly and lived at now, but so it's all kind one coast where we surf all the spots around there together. And what age drew you? And we started, yeah. Anyway, she was a while back 13 or 14 or something, but yeah, just being from the coast, it's kind of naturally you, you support everyone from around there. And, and I was obviously coaching already and she, you know, had potential. And one of the other kids from that, I was coaching at time surf a with her Riley Lang. And I remember he said to me, he was like, you know, and spoke Molly picks like this young chick, she rips and she charges and, and yeah. And obviously I heard it from everyone else as well, but just when you coach you gotta connect with someone too.
Speaker 7 00:15:05 And when I caught up with Molly and she's aro young gr who was, you know, a great surfer, but she was just eager to learn and eager to kind of take this whole surf journey thing on. And it was from then on, it was like, it was actually really like mates, even though I was an old dude and she was a young froth and gr, but ever since we've kind of hung out and it's, it's pretty fun. It's, it's actually been really good for my traveling CT coaching kind of pathway. Now it's just been fun to travel with someone young who's hasn't been to west surf main break and surf the box and just everything is new and fresh and it makes me feel like, you know, it's all a bit more, you know, in, through a fresh filter and bit more fun. And we talk shit all day and paid out, paid out each other and it's fun. It's good.
Speaker 9 00:15:54 Yeah. Awesome.
Speaker 3 00:15:54 Sick mate. Um, how many times
Speaker 9 00:15:57 Have you been to wa where CT, you've just been
Speaker 3 00:16:03 Over here that many times for all those comps, wouldn't you?
Speaker 7 00:16:07 Yeah, yeah. Least every year since I was, yeah. I dunno. I came and stay with Aman when I was about 14 and yeah. Stayed in, in the shed down near Smith's lake at his mate's house. I dunno what it's called.
Speaker 3 00:16:21 Oh, overlooking the valley there. Yeah. Uh, Johnny bucker. Yeah. It's an amazing house. Isn't
Speaker 7 00:16:26 It? Yeah. And then, um, I was, I remember I got caught drink driving once in mud river <laugh> so I learn my less, yeah. That's air man's fault, but I learn my lesson there.
Speaker 3 00:16:38 Not surprised someone told me a very similar story about that house in particular and aunt man who may or may not have been drink driving down that driveway, there ended up in a dam. But anyway, that's a story for another,
Speaker 7 00:16:48 No, but been
Speaker 10 00:16:49 Forever. So
Speaker 7 00:16:50 I've learnt my lessons since then.
Speaker 3 00:16:53 Maybe a bit of a troll by fire coming over as a, as a 14 year old air, man must have taken a shining to you you're of similar stature, you know, like maybe he thought he's my aunt, man protege. And uh, bit of a troll by fire. Was it
Speaker 7 00:17:06 A hundred percent we saw right eye. And he was, um, Yeah, he's he still calls me his little jockey mates.
Speaker 0 00:17:12 <laugh>
Speaker 3 00:17:13 That's pretty rich from him. Isn't it?
Speaker 7 00:17:15 It makes you feel good. So, no, but I, he took me out north point for the first time. I mean, yelling up, um, some point and it was
Speaker 0 00:17:24 We've worn microbe about name boss. I've gotta air that out, mate.
Speaker 7 00:17:27 Do the beep thing. But
Speaker 3 00:17:28 He says that never
Speaker 0 00:17:29 Doesn't worry about it. Nah, it's all good.
Speaker 7 00:17:31 Nah, but yeah, he, he showed me around over here when a full grim, and it was sick. I was like, likes an absolute legend and um, yeah. Being able to come over here and stay with him was epic.
Speaker 3 00:17:41 How, um, what was your best ever run at the QS? When it was a six star? You know, it was a long time, six star, which back then was like the biggest QS. Wasn't it. And then, and then it went to the 10,000. It's always change and it's um, yeah, it's rating, but it was always quite valuable on the QS. Um, what was your best ever crack at it?
Speaker 7 00:17:59 I think I made the quarters a couple of times, but yeah, the rating thing. Yeah. I dunno what you call it back then, whatever it was, but yeah. Made the quarters a bunch of times. It was always a fun of it. It, for me just being big and wild and rogue and I enjoyed riding big boards and yeah. I feel like I, I did best when it was, when it was hard. So yeah. Main, main breaks. Kind of like one of those spots, like between there and sunset with my favorite spots to compete. Yeah.
Speaker 5 00:18:24 Hey Mike, just one question, obviously you got a few surfs in your stable. What happens when you say you've got Molly? And is it Bri's another one here? You must get this all the time. Right? <laugh> your, your elimination
Speaker 3 00:18:36 Round?
Speaker 5 00:18:38 What do you do, mate?
Speaker 7 00:18:40 Yeah. It's I do get all the time. It's like <laugh> but it's a fair question. It's like, I just test you coaching philosophy,
Speaker 5 00:18:48 Go the Aussie is that?
Speaker 7 00:18:52 No, it's like, I really, I just test your coaching philosophy and your theories and, and outta your team, like who really backs themselves and who has faith in what they can do. Like there's moments where like, they've gotta really kind of go, right? I've got this myself and you give your input and you give the other one there point and then they go and do it themselves. They know that I'm on the beach whistling to the other one where to sit. That's kind of where I say the coaching theory and philosophy. I'm not a, I'm not a point in where to go and whistling sets. And I really, whether Molly's against Bria or who I will coach or Cara who I don't, I give my thoughts and I tell her to back her own decisions and then go out there and have a crack herself. So at the end of the day, it's like Molly, what Molly said, she's up against the scores, not really the person.
Speaker 5 00:19:40 So you're not going playing around with Chrisa fins before she paddles out or anything or
Speaker 7 00:19:45 No, not, not yet
Speaker 5 00:19:46 Loose, not the lecturer. <laugh>
Speaker 0 00:19:48 Now, uh, Jacko is sitting patiently in the corner.
Speaker 5 00:19:52 It's just text this, uh,
Speaker 11 00:19:54 Text warm at my phone. I like talking. So you've had me, that's probably the most quiet I've been for a while.
Speaker 0 00:19:59 <laugh> mate, we're talking about Marco here. Have you got anyone in your corner as, as coach?
Speaker 11 00:20:05 Uh, at the moment I do. I'm working with Mitchell Ross. Funny you bring up Chrisa um, she works with Mitchell. There you go. But no to new thing, I've started this year. Something, um, yeah, it's kind has come outta the blue. He reached out. Um, we're both, both from the same town. Is that right? Yeah. Never thought that like, um, micro said with Molly, like they're such close friends. I felt like we were too close friends to do the thing, do to do coaching together. And we did in Portugal and I got my best result on the C team. We kind of just went from there and stuck
Speaker 0 00:20:37 At it second place in era Sierra <laugh> you're guilty.
Speaker 11 00:20:40 Yeah. But, um, no I've had, um, fair few different coaches and just kind of, um, found what works. I found. I worked well with Richard Dogmar, which when I got second at, um, Aero and, um, unfortunately this year had a full squad and should I
Speaker 3 00:20:53 Won that by the way that
Speaker 11 00:20:55 I should have someone's snapping me from the now fell? Um, sort actually, um, yeah, I mean that, it's hard when you get so close to wind, but it was probably my, my doing, um, not staying on my feet thinking too, too many turns ahead and fell off. But, um, I mean, I still made my goal and to be able to sit here and be a CT surfer and tell you guys are still pretty
Speaker 0 00:21:16 Cool, so sick. It was so it was so it's been talked about a bit, but it was so sick to see, um, you know, the camaraderie and the mateship between all the Australians around the challenges series last year. I know that, you know, lip has talked about and that well as well, but yeah. So good to see. Um, who are some of your, your better mates on tour at the moment?
Speaker 11 00:21:35 Um, well the last event, well, the last two events I've traveled with, um, one of my really good mates, Morgan SI mm-hmm, <affirmative> both from this well have kind of grown up together. Um, and our other good friend, Mattie MCGI Ray. So that's kind of a, like a bit of cool thing, but we're all real close and yep. Um, but I feel like, yeah, no favorites or best mate, like I think the whole Aussie squad, I mean, it's kind of come from the challenger series, Molly. They can probably speak for it as well. The way we got around each other and bring the flag down the beach. And it didn't matter if someone lost in round one or around two quarter semi's final. If someone was in the final or he, everyone was down there, no matter if they were hung over, whatever it was, they were enjoying their time in Europe.
Speaker 11 00:22:15 They'd still be there for your heat and they'd be the most whistles on the beach. It used to be every QS to Brazilians. You'd used to be like almost telling a shut up, but now it's us, we're the loudest down there. And I feel like that's the, um, the good change. And I feel like that's why there was so was qualified last year. And hopefully that inspires the next kind of crop to do the exact same thing. Like cuz they're still the boys that, um, were with us last year on the channel series that are on this year. And I hope that they can kind of how know set the precedent to, to continue to do that. Cuz it works.
Speaker 0 00:22:44 Yeah, it
Speaker 3 00:22:45 Definitely did work. It was pretty noticeable and light. You said then Jacko the browser that just had each other's backs for so long, it seemed like they were this impenetrable gang just down there cheering everyone on. And um, mate, I reckon aint that swell boys sort of started it didn't they were the, I gangs and the, and the Olympics and that just got this real Aussie team vibe about it. And then you guys stuck together as a team and whole bunch of you qualified. It was fucking really good to see. So hopefully all you, um, like say all the Aussie stick together mate. Cause that's what, that's what we're about in uh, barrel surf podcast. Just being blindly patriotic towards you only gotta look at my fantasy team to uh, every year I just gonna win a nah, Jack, Baker's gonna win. It's my power surfer mate.
Speaker 3 00:23:31 That's so good every year, but um, J at be yeah, there you go. Yeah. Well, well mate, since, since T-bones are throwing Jordy at bells, we can't let, uh, Jacko leave the shed without us. He's telling us about that, mate, you had us on the fucking edge of our seats. We knew you were coming to join us and we're just all behind you. I mean we're behind all the young Aussies, everyone here. They're, they're all the same as us. They're all pretty Patriot when it comes to watching, um, the, the comps on TV and we're looking at Jacko baker out there on his pink board and the dark gloomy bells lineup looks so good. The Contra asked the color. It was mate. I reckon that was definitely getting you a couple of points too. So if it's gloomy go the pink board, it was looks fucking good. But mate, then you did all these hard work. There's absolutely smashed Jordy and then we'd like seconds to go. You've just like mate to tell us what happened. Talk us through it,
Speaker 11 00:24:22 Mate. Yeah. Um, that's actually funny enough when, when we're driving here, we're like we should have been recording this cuz we actually kind of went through the whole thing with Jordy and the whole situation. But um, no, I'm actually glad we chat about on the way it's gonna help me. <laugh> I know. Explain it now, but um, I think you just call, I think you just call it a brain fart. Um, I don't know when you surfer here. He that well, and I did everything that I wanted to do. Everything was ticked, I'd got the two best waves and I know four minutes to go and just over confident kind of was like, oh, I'm gonna kind of just cuddle up to him and get close and kind of put the pressure on. And which is usually what you can do. But um, yeah, he kind of went for the, went for the interference and got pretty close. But um, I felt like at the time that I was enough away, it wasn't till I'd recap the heat after and watched on, I was like, holy fuck. I was pretty lucky there <laugh> it was definitely, it was definitely a 50 50 corner. I'm glad it went my way, but
Speaker 3 00:25:23 I reckon it deserved to go away. Like he tried to pull a shift one on
Speaker 11 00:25:26 You. Yeah. I think they,
Speaker 3 00:25:27 He paddled for yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 11 00:25:29 Exactly. You can kind of sh you can kind of tell, he put, put his line at me. Um,
Speaker 3 00:25:34 Well he paddled and then he stopped. He
Speaker 11 00:25:36 Stopped and then he went as soon I turned
Speaker 3 00:25:37 Then went again. Oh, it was so was so suspect. He was like, I'm on the ropes. Yeah. I'm just gonna stitch this rookie up with some, yeah,
Speaker 5 00:25:48 Let Jacko tell the story a Sorry, Jacko. He likes to tell us, I like that answer his own question.
Speaker 11 00:25:55 I like a thing from the outside looking in. Um, but no, I've definitely had a fair few people. Tell me about it and talk about it. And like for a bit there straight after I was like kind, just wanna forget about it. I was lucky and I had a heat the next day, but now it's funny to kind of, oh, I can laugh about it in a way. I, I got lucky and it went my way. And like I said, it was probably a 50, 50 core. It could have either gone either way. Like the way they probably explained it to him was probably pretty like, it was a bit of a contradiction and then the way they kind of would've explained it to me was the same as well. So you, in his defense, it probably when you have priority, you have right away.
Speaker 11 00:26:33 Um, but when he went to take off, he was pointing towards me and not towards the beach to take off. And luckily we didn't come in contact. Cause I feel as though if I did hit him with my foot or anything like that, then it wouldn't have gone my way. So I think there's a bit of a bit of a gray area there, but it's just a bit it's tricky and I'm glad, like I said, it went my way and I mean just, I, I, it's lucky I wanna heat and I recapped it with Mitch and to win and still have something to learn from that big, um, yeah. It's is a good thing. So I just know to not get that close again. And
Speaker 5 00:27:03 He seemed to be pretty gracious in defeat during his post seat interview. But did he actually, did you see him in the, uh, the locker room? Was he smashing his board? Like, uh, no. He, when he came in from his heat against
Speaker 11 00:27:13 No, he's, he didn't do ALO. Um, but, um, no, he, he, yeah. I mean, I, I had a heat against him at sunset that was really close to, so, and yeah, I mean, I think there's a lot of respect between our surfers. I think what it's like on the footy field, whatever happens on the, on the field stays on the field. Like you don't really bring it to the beach and
Speaker 0 00:27:32 Unless you're slow <laugh>,
Speaker 11 00:27:34 But, um, yeah, I think nothing, nothing that happens in heat is directed at your competitor. I think you are just out there to win. And if you don't, you, of course you're upset. Um, like I think he went and spoke to the judges and that's perfectly fine to get the Des the description of what happened. Um, but yeah, I had a chat to him after we kind had a laugh about it. And after Cal got second, um, up the Aussies,
Speaker 0 00:27:55 Come on, NOIE Second place at bells.
Speaker 11 00:27:59 Yeah. We're up at the ju pub and Jordy was there having a couple beers and that, and we kind of just had a laugh over it over couple beers. And I was honest. I was like, I was probably lucky and yeah, it was cool. Like, that's the cool that nothing's, I don't know, like, I dunno, it's not like you hold a grudge against someone for something that happens competitively it's, whatever happens on the day and who gets the nod. Um, and you, and you move on from it. And I mean, everyone, like I had a heat the next day with E with Ethan, so I needed to forget about it as well and to take the positives and, um, so yeah, I, I re-watched it once and Mimi slapped me phone out at me and he goes, stop watching it. It doesn't matter. But, um, nah, it was, yeah.
Speaker 0 00:28:34 Oh, you gotta learn from it. Don't you? Like you say it's um, so Molly, any, uh, board smashing Finn ripping activities on the women's side <laugh>
Speaker 6 00:28:44 Uh, the women are, are pretty tamed. Um, I'm trying to think of a story so I can add value to it, but we're pretty boring to be fair. <laugh> we're all just like so gracious feeling like, oh yeah. Woo.
Speaker 5 00:28:56 You
Speaker 11 00:28:57 Guys are too nice
Speaker 6 00:28:59 Too.
Speaker 0 00:28:59 Who don't you like on tour? That's that's Molly
Speaker 11 00:29:02 Says Molly behind everyone's back.
Speaker 0 00:29:06 I
Speaker 11 00:29:06 I've stayed with her. I know Comes home from the comp site.
Speaker 12 00:29:11 I don't smash my boards. You would? I did that talk shit.
Speaker 6 00:29:15 Yeah.
Speaker 11 00:29:16 We all do
Speaker 0 00:29:17 Talk shit smack, but I
Speaker 6 00:29:18 Don't think on the women's side or anyone, I feel like we, I have a good relationship with everyone and I like have new relation with people and um, yeah, I actually think the tour is pretty cool. Like they've welcomed a bunch of rookies cuz they kinda had to cause
Speaker 0 00:29:35 We're cause you're dominated kinda.
Speaker 6 00:29:37 Yeah. You know, but um, no it's been good. I don't think I don't not get along with anyone. So I'm fortunate in that and I think too, my personality, I try and get along with everyone. I don't try and hold grudges. I don't look out for like bad stuff in people, so yeah.
Speaker 0 00:29:52 Well I'm actually gonna try to fire you up here. That's good. Um, let's talk about the numbers on the women's side. Yeah. Must be frustrating. Hey.
Speaker 6 00:29:59 Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Um, as in, are you talking about the cut or
Speaker 0 00:30:03 Well, I'm talking about there's what only the top 10 make it through to the second part of the season. Yeah. 10 surfers. I mean, come on. I mean, there's that the talent's obviously down on the women's side these days other wasn't before, but it's obviously gotten better. Yeah.
Speaker 6 00:30:17 Yeah. I think that's where WSL and from probably the surf end, don't see eye to eye in a sense where it's like from them, it's expensive to have more than 10 women. Um, but then for us we're like, that is harsh because there's so many good women now and there's more women to showcase cuz we also good enough to be at that level. But um, I think after the cut, obviously that you'll have the top 10 women and it'll be very exciting, but yeah, it's definitely a bummer. Cause I feel like we could have matched them all year round, not just for these first five minutes.
Speaker 0 00:30:53 Yeah. Without number of rookies. I mean, it's gonna take you take your time to find your feet, not obviously your surfing Mars for the first time. Um, I know surf sunset for the first time, for the first time or the rookies you gotta give 'em a chance. And just having that half season cut for 10 people. Eli, if you're listening, I can sort it out, mate. <laugh> not good enough.
Speaker 5 00:31:14 That's
Speaker 0 00:31:16 Yeah.
Speaker 5 00:31:16 Yeah. That's probably a goods segue into, into Eli actually. You know, you, Jordan, you talk about the, obviously the petition took place over in BES about the mid-season cut. Uh, how much traction did they get and um, anyone sort of go have a good stern talk with, uh, the boss or
Speaker 11 00:31:36 Um, we always anything that's our matter we have like a surfers rep and people that put that for. So it's not just what is their 50 something of us or storming in all room blowing up about it. But no, we, um, we were all at meetings about it and I mean, I think the petition was just about a bit of, um, bit of change for the sustainability of our surfers. Not so much. I think there's a lot of look at the sustainability for the company, which is totally understandable. That's how they run the contest. So I think it's about being 50 50 and talking to each other about it, which I think we've got the clarity of now after our last few chats, I feel like we're gonna move in a better direction. Um, and I explained the reason for the cut and things like that.
Speaker 11 00:32:16 And there's a lot more clarity behind that. But before I, especially for us rookies, we pretty much just went, oh, we made the world tour, the dream tour. Oh shit, you get five events like this thing that's promised. And then you can also lose your job five months later and spend whatever you earn to get back on, like back to the channel series and do it all over again. So it could be a pretty vicious cycle of not really well in men mentally. Like, I mean, I know last year if I didn't qualify files that first got first guy out, I wouldn't have been able to go back to the ch um, the regional series. It would've just been no way. I would've want to go back to that level and have to try again and yeah, like be so close to something like that.
Speaker 11 00:32:56 So I think moving forward, there's gonna be in place that are gonna help that. Um, and yeah, I think with the, with the clarity with talking to them is, um, feel like we're on the same page because I don't think they were super happy with that. And then, but we weren't super happy with the other things. So I think it's all about just figuring it out and all you gotta have to do is talk like what we're doing now. You just gotta get in a room and chat and you figure things up. So yeah. I just think that's what wasn't there before.
Speaker 5 00:33:21 Yeah.
Speaker 0 00:33:22 Is it hard being a rookie to point, point your point across? Do you feel like, you know, I'm, I'm just new on the tour. I can't really speak up or is it just, no, fuck it. I'm gonna tell what I think what
Speaker 11 00:33:31 I, um, yeah, I feel, I just feel like my biggest thing. If I was going to speak up or trip up that I don't really have much men are coming behind what I'm saying, I've dead set, done three events. I'm not someone I don't know. I don't feel as though I'm gonna be listened to like, like a Kelly or, or someone that's been there for years. It's um, unless it's a really valid point and you brought it up and someone jumps on behind and goes, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you don't wanna bring something up and then everyone's like the fuck's a rookie talking about yeah.
Speaker 0 00:34:00 The O
Speaker 11 00:34:01 But no, every chat, it seems like that we've had, something's been brought up and everyone's jumped behind and we've um, yeah. Started to figure out what, what what's gonna go on.
Speaker 5 00:34:11 Yeah. Probably work, work in progress. But micro, you know, leading up to the, the changes on the tour, the surface rep, um, at the time who was the surface rep at the time that sort of got involved in, in some of the new changes on tour. Do you know that mate, was it ACE or
Speaker 7 00:34:27 Coffin took over and Taana for the women, pretty much everyone in the world who had a job when you started, you didn't know if it was gonna be, the world was gonna end and then it was, you didn't know if the business was gonna still be going in whatever form of work they were is, but it's yeah. I feel like there was definitely a tough, tough time for the business of WSL. There's a tough time for the surfers personally, with their own sponsors and their own families and knowing whether they're gonna still be doing this thing in a couple of years and for a service rep to be kind of in the middle of that, it was, it was a tough position to be in. So yeah, it's definitely, um, yeah, I dunno how involved the surface reps were when they're off isolating a home throughout the whole COVID thing as well. So
Speaker 0 00:35:10 Yeah. Yeah. One thing we've sort of talked about on this show, I'm just gonna swap this over Marco cause that, um, cord is proving problematic, but, um, what, what does surface feel about, um, obviously there's the, the first round, no one loses in the first round, if they need to reduce the competition time, surely a simple solution is to get rid of that, um, non elimination round. Or is that something that you guys feel that is required to sort of get your feet, feet in the wax and sort of yeah. Get amongst it.
Speaker 11 00:35:45 I feel like if you're traveling halfway across the world and you get one go at it, it's pretty heavy. But yeah, I guess from the side of financially, if that round does save and stuff like that, but I know from traveling around the QS, you can dead set, fly halfway across the road to Europe and lose first heat and spent five grand or something. But five minutes, 25 minutes and your like your dead set home, like you fall first wave and it throws you outta the priority loop. So I feel as though needs to be there you a way just to make it, I mean, I mean, it's like not many other sports. You get a second chance, but I feel like you, you almost need it in the ocean. Like we're not hitting a ball back and forth over a net and the conditions are the same every day. It's like a tennis post, if there's shit on the day, the shit on the day. But I mean, in surfing, you may be the best you've ever felt and you paddle out and you can't catch a wave like tides, wind
Speaker 3 00:36:35 Newing against the
Speaker 11 00:36:38 Perfect example that could be around one heat and your dead set, go home getting a three, five. And you're like, it's
Speaker 3 00:36:43 Just pumping 20 minutes before and then it stops.
Speaker 7 00:36:46 But there's an argument on like, I totally agree. Like I would love to see all my servers get two cracks outta everywhere we go on the world. But on the flip side, the cream always rises to the top as well. Like Felipe, when the rings kind of did two puns on one wave and got six, like, cause he's fucking good. So it's kinda like you can adapt the, the Kelly won 50 world titles and Mick one is and all the right people of one world titles. So I feel like I would definitely be voting for everyone getting
Speaker 0 00:37:14 That's
Speaker 7 00:37:14 The card multiple opportunities. But, um, yeah, like without a doubt, I feel like, but I do think as a competitive surf, if you've got the right attitude and you just make it happen everywhere, go, you do find your way through it as well.
Speaker 3 00:37:32 Yeah. Well mate, I mean, there's definitely pros and cons every situation and it's easy to go, oh man. You know, from this surface point of view and, and, and we, as, um, as, uh, spectators who don't contribute anything really in terms of cost and that's not like you're paying to watch a comps and that, so, you know, you wanna see as much as you
Speaker 0 00:37:52 Can. We consume the adverts that the Wael throws down our throat mate <laugh> again and again, again, tell you what if I had to listen to Mick fanning? Tell me about the great ocean road. One more time. <laugh>
Speaker 7 00:38:03 That's a great road though. I'll give that much.
Speaker 0 00:38:06 It's very nice road. It's a great ride. No need to hear about it every five minutes though.
Speaker 3 00:38:11 But um, you know, you understand that mate it's oh, really? No
Speaker 0 00:38:17 Way. So
Speaker 7 00:38:18 I'll tell, I'll tell you on the way
Speaker 3 00:38:19 Molly's claiming she has seen the ad. Obviously you didn't watch the broadcast
Speaker 11 00:38:22 And Molly hasn't been watching the comp <laugh>
Speaker 0 00:38:25 Just going to hate analyzer, Molly. You'll uh, say it pretty quickly.
Speaker 3 00:38:29 No, but mate, it's obviously really expensive from all reports. It's been running at a loss for fucking however long. We got some lucky billionaire dude who who's floating the boat and, and uh, ELO's sort of the front man to make those crucial decisions and you sort of gotta give it to him. He, he was like super clear and very firm in his answer to everyone, which you sort of gotta respect, uh, in one way. Um, you can't complain too much cuz mate, the building air could just go, oh fuck it. You wanna be too hard. Let's just pull the rug, see where you're at.
Speaker 7 00:39:01 Understand you can't bite the hand of feed too much. But I feel like the, the bottom line is if there's a bit more kinda communication and like Jacko said earlier, like working together a bit more and, and I'm pretty confident they'll get there. Like, yeah, it's like everything that kind of the storm blows up every now and then. And then you kind of have the right conversations and get back on the right track. And I feel like surfing, obviously the storm was brewing for a while and COVID probably didn't help it. And the billionaire guy, that's not making his money. Like it's, it's all understandable. And the bit business has to make money and the service, whenever
Speaker 3 00:39:38 He got Pfizer sponsor fucking cleaned up
Speaker 0 00:39:42 Any sort of
Speaker 3 00:39:42 Whoever's making toilet paper, get them on the tour sponsor. They fucking cleaned up.
Speaker 0 00:39:47 Is there any transparency on the, on the way that the, um, Z got it's deck Z, right? Is there any transparency on what he's sort of goal is or if he's just gonna keep bank rolling it or if that's actually happening because it's it's I
Speaker 7 00:40:01 Think it it's like, yeah, there's a lot of rumors going around, but it's obviously, he's not just the one guy coming out of his bank account. It's a, it's a big company and it's a, there's a lot more to it than probably what the little surf community really understand.
Speaker 0 00:40:15 Well, exactly. That's that's the
Speaker 7 00:40:17 Point. Yeah. So I think you, you do have to really understand both sides and like Jack, I said, they explained a lot of the financial scenarios of, of the business and a lot of it you can totally understand, but then all the servers for their own personal reasons from sponsors to, um, you know, in the world being of the way they are having to deal with, there's a cut. And if things got a job for the back end of the year and everyone's got family, so there's, I think there's just meeting in the middle it's, it's just the standard old, kinda big company that needed the, the storm to blow up and sit in the room and have a conversation and meet room again.
Speaker 3 00:40:50 What about, what are your thoughts on like maybe having seven comps and then three that are like having so seven cons for the cut? Cause there's gonna be a lot of crew in the cut that make the cut that aren't really gonna be pushing for top five and you know, like two or three heats, two or three pump,
Speaker 0 00:41:07 You proposing new structure.
Speaker 3 00:41:10 Yeah. Well, you know, like two or three comps out, they're just gonna be like, oh, I'm just filling up numbers. I'm not gonna make the top five. Or they might not have their hard in, I don't know. And then you get the rookies who, as you say, you've only had five comps to fill your feet out. I, I dunno. It's, it's hard to say, but I feel like, um, maybe having like a couple more comps and then have the cut, you know, but I guess every, every comp that they have a full field is X amount of money. What do you reckon, Molly?
Speaker 6 00:41:35 Yeah, I definitely agree from the surf fan. I mean, there's a lot of questions and then there's a lot of ideas and um, do know that WSL are listening and they are trialing and trying to learn. They genuinely want the best of the surfers, but, um, I think they just going through a trialing for period and to try and get to that self-sustainable hopefully one day, so that billionaire is not going in debt each year or something like that. But, um, I think that'll be right. Seven <laugh>
Speaker 0 00:42:03 It'll
Speaker 6 00:42:03 Be OK. I think the seven, uh, events idea is being thrown around. It's a rumor and WSL are probably gonna trial with it. I have no idea or how, but they definitely try to listen to ideas and, um, hear what we have to say, hear what the surf ends have to say and then hear what the financial says. So, um, I don't think it's gonna be like this forever. I think they're gonna keep chopping and changing in ways to learn and keep improving.
Speaker 5 00:42:28 Geez. As you, the surfers rep mate, you, you there seven coming up.
Speaker 11 00:42:32 He's a coach.
Speaker 13 00:42:35 I, I got one other
Speaker 5 00:42:36 One though. Just hold your horses then <laugh>
Speaker 0 00:42:39 Before you go on you keep, before you go on, I just wanna make mention you listen to barrel surf podcast. We've got Molly pickling, Glen micro hall and Jackson baker in the shed as well as a bunch. OFMs in the background here. You guys all still there. I think we got a new arrival, Pete. Hello mates. Welcome about podcast. Peter Connell is in the, she is that
Speaker 11 00:43:02 A can. That's a, that's a can
Speaker 5 00:43:05 Let's let's get off that. Mid-season talk and
Speaker 0 00:43:07 Yeah, let's talk about positive stuff. Bullshit.
Speaker 5 00:43:09 Thank you. But you know what I wanted to, uh, know Jack, you know, obviously you talked, you got that runner up at, um, Portugal and you went to France and come across. Holy Eva. Was it? How did it all work out? Your qualification of CT? Was it cause you weren't qualified when you got to Hawaii, right? Did a few things have to go your way or you already qualified in Europe before you arrived? What was the I luck, luck. A lot of luck. Yeah, I remember. So I just wanted to hear from the man himself.
Speaker 11 00:43:37 It's it's a, um, yeah, it was a, um, yeah. Pretty, yeah, wild story. It's it's good that I get to talk about it in a positive way. And I still got to live well, start my dream out and not be on the other end of it as like a negative thing and talk about it going, oh fuck. I hate talking about this. I actually enjoyed it. Kind of like gives you tingles. Oh, I did it then. But a lot of things had to go my way then, but I came into, uh, hall, I think with the double qualifiers. I think I must have been at like 10, ninth or 10th and they were taken 12. So I was in by three spots and then hall came around, silly old me lost first round <laugh> and our deadset needed to make that heat, that heat. And I was on, I would've been on like 12,000 points. I would've got told probably two days later. It sounds
Speaker 5 00:44:25 Really
Speaker 0 00:44:25 Familiar. It did.
Speaker 11 00:44:26 Sounds like me and Molly got pretty similar stories.
Speaker 0 00:44:29 Safety surf. That way. I remember that one.
Speaker 11 00:44:31 Yeah. I safety surf. The M one. I went one with priority and Crosby got an eight, nine behind and pulled an eight outta me ass and still wasn't enough. But um, yeah, so like that story went on and somehow everyone that was behind me, I think from the remainder of that day and the following day, everyone that was behind me from an 10th to 22nd or 24th or lost in round one. And I was like,
Speaker 0 00:44:58 Like blood bath, wasn't it? It
Speaker 11 00:44:59 Was a blood bath. I reckon. Um, my mom was up in Evan, just flicking 'em off the list. Just like this. I was like, this is like the craziest thing. I was like, it was, it was an out of body. I was just like, there's no way that could have happened. I don't know. It was meant to be. And that's what I just kept telling myself. I was like, every night I went to bed, I was like, if it's meant to be, it's meant to be like, if I don't make it, it wasn't meant like, and it was the simplest way of putting it in the easiest way of being in my own head of like going. Yeah. Okay. If it happens, it happens if it doesn't, it doesn't and then, um, yeah, it all, um, all worked out. Everyone kept losing and got down to Arnold's day. I think there was five scenarios and there was still three spots. So heat, one heat, three, two people lost and got the call from Trav a couple days. Uh, like 10 minutes later,
Speaker 6 00:45:42 We've got a few comments moral to the story is, is just keep it in your own hands. Cause I felt for Jack on that day, I don't know how many spreadsheets he must have read every heat. I've never seen an anxious man. Like
Speaker 11 00:45:56 Jack. I think I aged. I think that's where more hairline's gone on those couple days. Ah, it, um, yeah. Had a lot of spreadsheets, had a lot of people helping, but then as much as you wanted, yeah. KA helped. And um, heaps people from her, the border riders WSL had their own one and yeah, it was like something that you kind of wanted to forget about, but then you had to like, I know, stay attentive to it and, and watch an artist was down there every day, torturing myself <laugh> but it was like, but every day it was like, it was percentage better. It was like probably from round one where, when I lost, it was probably legitimate 48 scenarios. If all scenarios that could have taken me out and only needed three of them to happen to, to fall off. And the people that were closest just disappeared. Just,
Speaker 7 00:46:43 I feel real bad because like I felt sick watching out, but it was seriously like watching the best Netflix series. <laugh>
Speaker 11 00:46:52 Me just walking around all day, wigging out.
Speaker 7 00:46:56 That's wrong on your head there.
Speaker 6 00:46:59 <laugh> it
Speaker 7 00:47:00 So noisy. And I, I genuinely fell back cause I was obviously frozen to Jacko to make it. And I've been there 50 times myself, but it was like, it was seriously heavy. It was like Jacko was running around like LUN. It was, it was hard to watch.
Speaker 11 00:47:13 It was, it was that many heat I was justing out. And it was like, like I said, I reckon I aged a fair bit after that. It was, I was drinking a fair few beers every night, just trying to get to sleep and
Speaker 0 00:47:25 Tell us about the call mate. When you got the call, tell us, tell us your feeling as, as you received the
Speaker 11 00:47:30 Call. I kind of had, I, I called Trav. So usually you get the call from Trav. I called Trav and I said, have I made it? And he goes, I think you have, but I have to wait for confirmation from the main on the, just the mathematics. And then he called me back five minutes later and that's when it pretty much felt real and call my miss to straight away. And somehow my dad called more cried more than my Mrs did. It was, yeah. I think it meant a lot to him. Did you
Speaker 5 00:47:54 Know who got knocked out for you to get in?
Speaker 11 00:47:57 Yeah. So on finals day, the people that could jump me were Jacob.
Speaker 5 00:48:02 Oh,
Speaker 11 00:48:02 We, which I mean by the
Speaker 11 00:48:06 I wasn't wasn't I was staying with Jacob. Wasn't wishing for Jacob to lose. Cuz essentially on that last day there was five scenarios and three could happen. I could still make it. So if Jacob fell in that three, I, I, I would've been, would've been fine. Mm-hmm <affirmative> um, so it was Jacob Kani ball, Billy stem and Ian gen te. And might've been, I can't remember the last one, but yeah, unfortunately Jacob lost in that first heat of the morning. It was just tricky. Pretty big. Um, no that was, it was a tough heat. It was like, I think it was like robo and maybe Zeek loud. It was like a, it was a crazy heat and like, and, and I was, and I was going like, I mean, if I saw Jacob win the win, that heat, he makes it and then other guys, it was best day ever. So, um, but no, there was a fair few scenarios and it was pretty much before the second round even went out. It was just, I think they had four heats. And by the time the four heats were done, I, I had found out. So I guess it went my way, but, um, yes.
Speaker 0 00:49:04 Yeah. You'll be able.
Speaker 3 00:49:08 And, um, does your dad surf, you mentioned your dad was pretty emotional there. Surely he's a
Speaker 11 00:49:12 Surfer. Yeah. Dad's a surfer. He got me into this, this whole gig. And, um, does he go, alright. Yeah, he actually surfs pretty good. Um, if he does listen to this, I will get him to lose some weight and get back in the water. Big fell <laugh> but, um, no, we've had a, we've like tough trot in life to
Speaker 3 00:49:27 See tr from down south physio over there
Speaker 11 00:49:29 Getting back in hundred percent,
Speaker 3 00:49:32 He gets everyone back in the water. We're all got many ailments here and we're all fat as well. And
Speaker 11 00:49:37 Hey, you
Speaker 3 00:49:37 Straight under theres helping us
Speaker 11 00:49:38 Out. He needs to help I'll I'll get him over you next year. I'll sort him out. Well, I think this will be the last place you should start surfing. He'll he'll get flogged over here. Like I was saying before the heavy water over you'll get flogged, but no, he slowly getting back into it. I think whole thing with his surfing, his like fun surfing kind of changed when I started competing and everything was kind of, I'm very lucky that I was a priority and I'm very thankful for all this help to get me to where I am today. And I think he, he put me first, not himself. And um, and then my mom got crook and then she passed away. So I think everything was, he's a very selfless person at, he put everyone else first. And
Speaker 3 00:50:15 What's your boy's
Speaker 11 00:50:15 Name? Guy? Baker. Kai. Yeah, guy,
Speaker 3 00:50:18 Guy. Oh, what a guy.
Speaker 11 00:50:24 But he I've been getting him back in he's unfortunately went to the dark side. He's bought AUP, but at least he gets in the water, but I mean, he's slowly getting back on a mal and stuff, but I mean, yeah, like he's back, he's standing up and he's, he's surfing and um, yeah, I mean, it's just about, yeah. Cutting those kilos and getting motivated. Cause I know when he gets outta the water, he's so often and he is like, why not being doing this is same, but I think it's just with the way his body is with. He might come in handy here. Um, he just comes in feeling so fatigued and fucked. Yeah.
Speaker 0 00:50:54 So I think does the job on the
Speaker 3 00:50:57 Literally, probably three quarter of us three quarter of, cause we we're average age in is about 50, 45. We are literally in, at tres. Like my, all these guys are intres every, every once, twice a week at
Speaker 11 00:51:12 The
Speaker 3 00:51:12 Fucking injuries, I
Speaker 11 00:51:13 Looking up
Speaker 3 00:51:14 The boys that, but he's, that's actually <laugh> but it's too his detriment cuz then we go out and take his waves so
Speaker 11 00:51:23 Soon enough he'll be treating you dad and you'll be all done. Be out there solo. We looking mates
Speaker 3 00:51:28 It's um, mate, what happened that night that you fi that you, that you did qualify, give us, give us an inside skinny, any, any tales that may or may not have happened that night? Uh, was there a celebration?
Speaker 11 00:51:38 Yeah, it was a pretty fair, fair piss up. It was actually funny. We had a pretty big one the night before. Cause Cal and limo Bryan found out the night before.
Speaker 3 00:51:46 I see.
Speaker 11 00:51:47 And then they were like, they, like, they were kind of, we just had a pretty big one at the bong house and then actually made the, the next day finding out coffee, all so hung over really. And I actually needed Liam and Cal to beat certain people too. And they did their job. So it was pretty funny.
Speaker 3 00:52:02 Get on the boys.
Speaker 11 00:52:03 I won't, I won't say too much about the next night, but yeah, we had a, we had a fair, big one and probably went till the next morning when the sun came up about, we were just, it was like being on cloud nine when you get that and you know that you made it and that's your time, like that's what you work for that, not just that night, but to be able to celebrate with all the Aussies was all of us at a house, was drinking beers, having a hell time was no's unreal, what you dream about. And, and it had been kind of leading up for so long too. You were kind of thinking about prior to losing and then you lose and you don't think it's gonna happen. So for it to go like in and out and then it happens, it's like boys have rollercoaster.
Speaker 3 00:52:38 What about you, Molly? When you found out that you, uh, qualified was there or an F was there of mass proportions in Hawaii. The,
Speaker 11 00:52:48 I like the Molly story.
Speaker 0 00:52:49 Molly, give us a little background on this one because yeah, my qualifications. Well, yeah, you didn't qualify at first. Did you? My
Speaker 6 00:52:56 Lack of qualifications. Uh, so Hawaii leading Hawaii, I needed a result. I actually didn't know what result I needed.
Speaker 11 00:53:05 I did.
Speaker 6 00:53:06 And spreadsheet man, probably spreadsheet
Speaker 11 00:53:09 On men's and women's I love it.
Speaker 3 00:53:11 Oh man. Over there. Right. <laugh>
Speaker 6 00:53:14 Literally, but I just went into Hawaii, clean slate and ready to take on Halli and give it my all. And that's honestly what I did. I tried my best and I fell one short and it was gut wrenching when I found out cuz even Glen didn't know what I needed. And as a matter of fact, I didn't even need to make that heat. I needed to get third, not fourth. So, um, I didn't even know what was going on. I was just doing it. But then when we broke that down, because Glen kind of had a moment of maybe kicking himself going, oh, should I have like known to then fight for third? But our whole outlook on it is we wanna win every heat, not just scraping to tour, not just scraping through heats, like you wanna control that situation and you know, where it wasn't to qualify. It was to win that as then. So, um, yeah, I think on the broader things, it may have looked interesting, but for me it was all part of my journey and
Speaker 7 00:54:14 Sorry, just quickly. Nah, you can finish your story, but just it's fucking, super interesting that part. Cause like I had the moment of like, should I have told her it was third, but at the end of the day she fell off on a couple of waves, whether she knew she needed to get third or first or second, whatever it was the same theory. Anyway, you wanna serve your waves and make them so it was kinda like, yeah, if you, if she executed the heat, she wanted to win, which she wanted to execute. Whether you want to get first, second, third or fourth, the same thing anyway. So it's like, yeah, it was just, it was interesting though. Cause it's like one of those things where you really test your own theory and so Molly it's like, right, well I'm here, it's another heat. Do my thing and pick my plan and try and execute. And whether you, if you're out there trying to just get third, it just sounds so against everything that you, but on the flip side, you're trying to qualify and thirds enough. So it's like, it's an interesting scenario and yeah, so it was a, it was a pretty funny one for us to digest after.
Speaker 0 00:55:18 Yeah. You don't seem like a surfer that goes for third Molly.
Speaker 6 00:55:22 No. Yeah. As Glen's, that was the interesting scenario with that third and fourth, but then the rest of the qualification unfolded in the way that I ended didn't qualify and then left knowing that Katie simers I'm like a friend of hers and she was chatting to me actually pre saying how she kind of had second thoughts on qualifying and whatever. And I took her, is she she's 15 now. Wow. Maybe 16. She's pretty young. <laugh> she's really young, but she's really good. And um, yeah, Katie has a really good head on her shoulders, like at 15 to say no to, to what kid does that. And I think she's got a crazy future of head of her. Um, and it was for the best, my opinion. And I know my opinion's a bit biased, but <laugh> in general. Lot of people thought that was best for her.
Speaker 6 00:56:09 Cuz even she was saying she wanted to just be a kid, you know, and just hang out with their friends. And um, we see that on the world stage that young people get on and then they struggle later in life. It catches up to them because they didn't have the time to be a kid. So hats off to Katie to recognize that at such a young age and say no to something so big. Um, and then yeah, so I went home and we decided that it was like, all right, let's just say you didn't qualify. So just to keep my emotions and my head straight, um, and then celebrated if you do, because I mean, I was fortunate that Glen and my manager Ben were of back and forth with her team managers and WSL to figure out what this answer was gonna be. So I knew so I could prepare, but all I was told was go have fun over Christmas and go do new and we'll chat in the new year. And um, I actually, well, I should let Glen actually say the story where I unfolded the answer cuz that was interested.
Speaker 7 00:57:06 Yeah. I just remember I was on the golf course when I found out <laugh>
Speaker 14 00:57:10 Michael was
Speaker 7 00:57:11 On the team fucking half. Cause I, I was just that I was like finally got a game of golf, having some beers and I gotta deal with this <laugh> um, no, so I was obviously psyched, but it's yeah, it was just, it was interesting like going through the back and forth with her manager and um, WSL and it was like, yeah, can't really tell too much. But she was like, like Molly said deep down, she probably wasn't convinced that it was the right thing to do to be on tour at that age. And like I said, like unbiased, it was, I, I was really hoping for her sake. She wasn't, she's freaking incredible. She's gonna have a crazy career. She'll make the tour the day she wants to. So yep. Like I really did think it was the right thing for her to, to take a few years off and, and to surf Pete gro and yeah, soon as she clicks her fingers she'll be on tour.
Speaker 7 00:58:02 So it's it's, it was the right thing. But chat with manager and she was obviously just like anyone, like when you're knocking back such a big deal, it's like you have second thoughts. So she was going back and forth a bit and I was kinda here all, no, she's not Molly's on. And then it was like, hang on, actually, she's not sure again <laugh> and that went and I was doing my head and then that's when I went and played golf at a bucks party and then go a message. Yeah. The stabbed posted. And I was just like, what the fuck now? Really? So anyway, it was cool. The outcome of it is,
Speaker 0 00:58:34 Was it posted before you found out?
Speaker 7 00:58:36 Yeah, it was, it kinda went out, but like WCL kind of contacted everyone straight away and it was all, it was all amazing. It's it's the right outcome in the end and I hope Katie's getting barreled somewhere and she of an epic career.
Speaker 5 00:58:48 I think TV was he, he knocked, knocked it back too. Didn't he have the young, how old's TB 17 look at his career just for the record. Molly. How old are you? Cause I'm 19. Are you one of the youngest girls on tour?
Speaker 6 00:59:00 I'm actually not I'm 19, but the youngest would be 16 right now. Yes.
Speaker 0 00:59:05 Is that Betty? Lou, Betty
Speaker 6 00:59:06 Lou very low. She potentially could be 17 now, but yeah, better.
Speaker 7 00:59:11 I think she was 16 when she called.
Speaker 6 00:59:13 OK. And Lulu Luana Silva is 17 and Betty is 16 something. So,
Speaker 5 00:59:19 So you seem pretty mature for your age. I mean, have you, have you, had you got older siblings or?
Speaker 6 00:59:24 Yeah, I'm fortunate. I have an older brother who did surf and I followed him around and then that's kind of it for, um, my siblings. It stops there and yeah, I guess I've had really good influences in my life from a young age. I've had someone like Glen in my corner. Well, I've had Glen in my own on up for, um, since I was 14 when I was growing and learning and um, yeah, I think he played a really big part in shaping who I was and how I look at things. So, um, yeah, I'd say that's plays a big part of how I approach things and why I probably seem so mature sometimes. Sometimes I'm definitely not. <laugh>
Speaker 11 00:59:59 You being mature the right.
Speaker 0 01:00:05 Conversation's why we're talking about the, uh, you know, being young and qualifying for things. So I was talking to Molly just before we started and I wanna make big shout out and the young up shred Fest yesterday, fairly good, solid young up. And the 12 girls Luna, Thomas I Fraser Lala loose and Lily Wilson, uh, from eight years on that's how old they were and they were in the final and uh, yeah, putting on a good show out there and I just got a yeah, big, big clap. Those girls, other
Speaker 11 01:00:38 Girls,
Speaker 0 01:00:39 Girls, the girls, it's the future of west Austral surfing there, the shed first put on by yelling up border riders. It was, uh, bloody inspirational to say it
Speaker 6 01:00:48 Was for sure. And to add to that too, like from my standpoint of being 19, we see these young girls and like they should know that they inspire us charging and um, we know that there's a big storm coming from behind us. So I think that's like, we are grateful for kids like that as much as they think. Yeah. Shout inspiring the
Speaker 0 01:01:08 Parents too, you know, <laugh> inspiring the kids to get out there and yeah. Hopefully not like full on soccer mums, but yeah,
Speaker 5 01:01:17 It's some of the, uh, the, the younger girls have got a pretty incredible air game too. What about you, Molly? You, you go to the air.
Speaker 6 01:01:23 Yeah, I think, yeah. <laugh> I definitely, when I had some time off in COVID and I was just getting amongst, I think trying to see where I wanna improve and aerials in women's surfing is definitely there's a lot to improve. And I think I went, I was fortunate that I could get to where ACO and get places that can fast track aerial maneuvers. And um, yeah, I'm slowly starting. It's a slow burner, but I definitely still have full eyes on trying to be, um, an all round competitor who can do airs and barrels and big waves and whatever else. So, um, yeah, it's just tough though. Cuz when you're competing, you kind of don't get to spend time to develop. Like I haven't tried to pun in forever cuz I've been at places like Mars and personally I'm not gonna try to pun off Marg. So you should <laugh>
Speaker 11 01:02:15 I have good supporters to try. I would love to see it. Uh Molly's too modest. Oh, she's got the air game better than half us fellas onto I I um, yeah, the technique and what she did at Waco, that one shoot. When she showed me the clips were staying together in <inaudible> and she showed me the clips and she was like, oh, there did a couple. And I was like, what the fuck? You did a couple really? Thanks Jackie. I was um, no it was it's cool to see you hope that the young, younger girls and staff, or even the elder girls are inspired by what? Molly and Katie simers and those girls trying to push the progression. I mean it's hard enough being a fella, trying to do it. Like I'm, I'm a big, LA's pretty hard to get this in the air, but I mean they inspire behind me to be able to do it. So
Speaker 0 01:02:59 I mean,
Speaker 11 01:02:59 You need to have that repertoire as well. Like can't just be one dimensional you've have you gotta have, like Molly said, barrels airs turns you can't just be a one sided surf. You gotta, you gotta have it all.
Speaker 5 01:03:09 Definitely. How I gotta ask both you, if you could surf any event this year on, obviously there's a cut, but like if there's any wave on tour, what would it be like question for both you is Molly. I
Speaker 6 01:03:21 Knew you were gonna
Speaker 5 01:03:23 No he's texting. Jack's texting he's <laugh>
Speaker 11 01:03:27 Yeah, she's lost. Oh no, she's no good in the car. <laugh> D I was like, I won't get on my phone. I oh, Google maps.
Speaker 6 01:03:37 Um, I think it's tough one purely because I look at events last year that they had like Mexico looked so fun and I probably would've said that, but this year that's not there. And I think Chopes women going toes is incredible. And as much as that wave would scare me, I think that would excite me because it's a challenging wave and a lot of people would, um, get caught out there I think. And that's probably where I could shine personally so that,
Speaker 11 01:04:07 Yeah, Molly gas outs. I'd see that.
Speaker 6 01:04:10 I mean, I talk again. Let's see if I get there and if I even,
Speaker 0 01:04:14 Ah, it's gonna be so good. Tension
Speaker 6 01:04:15 Are
Speaker 0 01:04:16 Thees is absolutely pumping right now. Dunno if anyone saw any of the footage, young, Ned heart young up grim. Was he 15 years old? 14 years old was over. He is over at choppy right now. You start with Billy camper and the boys. Yeah. What about you Jacko?
Speaker 11 01:04:33 Um, probably the one I'm looking for to the most is Glan.
Speaker 5 01:04:37 I thought you gonna say JBA
Speaker 11 01:04:39 Or JBA JBA, but just the gland. I mean, I used to go there with my dad. Um, when, when I was young, that was our kind of father, son trip from the age of about 13 or 14 till yeah, 18. So probably the biggest thing for me and with this cut coming up, I just wanna make the cut to be able to repay him and take him there and just surf the wave. And um, I mean, that's where he took me to learn how to backside bar ride. I was like, I mean, growing up at Murray, whether it's mostly right. So I was shocking on my back end. So, so your dad's a goofy footer, right? Oh, a natural foot. Oh, was he <laugh> but he, me there to get me better at going, going on left. So I mean to go back there and get a result and take him there and I know get to actually pay for him, rather him paying for me and, oh,
Speaker 3 01:05:24 That's awesome.
Speaker 11 01:05:25 And have him as my plus one coach. I mean it's after the cut, so there's not a whole lot of pressure. We'll just be able to enjoy it together. So
Speaker 3 01:05:31 That sounds unreal. Yeah. We,
Speaker 0 01:05:32 So if you make the cut, you make it the first half next year as well, right?
Speaker 11 01:05:36 Yep. So pretty much the back end. It's like, I mean, I don't know. It's
Speaker 3 01:05:39 Another year then you're getting really isn't it?
Speaker 11 01:05:41 Yeah. Like, and I mean, it takes the pressure of especially going into those events. No, you don't put your feet up, but I mean, it events like Chopes, it's not like your, your whole career's on the line. Like you're gonna probably be, I know a bit more selective on the right ones, but I mean, it's like, it's like here, it's like if they Chuck it out the ball and it's round three and everyone's coming up in heats and it's the difference between the cut. You're gonna go ahead first over the falls, if you have hour, it's like, I mean, your career's on the line. And I know even if your career wasn't on the line, everyone's gonna have a stab. Um, everyone enjoys having a go. And even if you're someone like myself, I, I found myself to be not that comfortable in and big waves. And I found to just find that, I mean, you're never comfortable. There's always fear, but even just a pipe, I felt like by just throwing yourself over the ledge and we pretty much know prep was pretty much prep looking at the houses. And when you freeze stuff out there, you get no waves. And then my first wave, you just, you just
Speaker 3 01:06:33 Packed monster on, on your, was it your first one? Yeah. First one
Speaker 11 01:06:37 Head. He's gotta go. Never know until
Speaker 3 01:06:39 You go.
Speaker 11 01:06:40 You just never know. I know. And once you do it, you're like, it wasn't that bad. Like
Speaker 3 01:06:45 Didn't die that time.
Speaker 11 01:06:46 Didn't die. <laugh> might soon.
Speaker 3 01:06:50 Yeah. Classic. And have you been a Glan Molly before you have you what's your, I mean, east coast is still hit Indo a fair bit. Maybe not as religious is, uh, west wa guys, but have you been to Indo?
Speaker 6 01:07:02 I have been to Indo, but gland. I've never been fortunate enough to get there, but I have spent a lot of time in Indo from a young age. I think my parents just like to holiday there and obvious
Speaker 3 01:07:12 Is he dad surf as
Speaker 6 01:07:13 Well? Yeah. Dad surfs a little bit. Um, is he got right? Yeah. He right. He's he from? Yeah, we kind of got into it. It was nothing serious though. Cuz he wasn't anything special. Of course. Like, I mean he just gets out there weekend warrior and yeah. How's it go like all
Speaker 3 01:07:28 Yeah,
Speaker 0 01:07:28 Yeah. Like everyone in the she
Speaker 3 01:07:30 Yeah <laugh>
Speaker 6 01:07:31 But yeah, I think, I mean Glan and the new events that are on tours, amazing. And spend it, it's an amazing way to put an event on there because it's gonna make all our surfers now go there and put in time over in, in and give back to that side of the community over there in, in, so yeah. Amazing.
Speaker 3 01:07:49 And I heard, uh, Jacko, so he, he wasn't super comfortable in big waves, but I mean big waves is a relative term. I think these days everyone's yeah. Was got their own version of what a big wave is, but for sure. Um, my what's what's the biggest waves. What's the, the biggest session you've had wave wise heightwise so that pops to mind. Where's the biggest waves you've got.
Speaker 6 01:08:10 I dunno. I feel like it all blessed yellow cause I can't even remember. Cause I'm just shit in my pants so much that I just don't even know what's going on
Speaker 3 01:08:17 Man. <laugh> but
Speaker 6 01:08:19 Um, I was
Speaker 3 01:08:20 Definitely, has she packed a bigger one than you Jacko or no way? I wouldn't be surprise, no way, no
Speaker 6 01:08:25 Way. I think I had a couple sessions out pipe that was very eye opening when it was like second reefing and oh that was why water and I mean, I wasn't on those waves, but you know, watching them,
Speaker 3 01:08:38 No I'm giving you anything either. Were they?
Speaker 6 01:08:40 No, none of that, but,
Speaker 3 01:08:41 But you out there and paddling around yeah.
Speaker 6 01:08:43 Out there. And honestly I was open to trying to go one if I was let one from the corner in the end bit, but um, yeah, probably one of those days or I'm pretty fortunate at home that we get some old waves as well. Whether it's a over corner or Farris, there's like big ocean east Southwell yeah. Very like, so I've definitely been on well overhead waves and have had a crack. So yeah, I think I've been pretty fortunate to have been exposed to those waves until, I don't know. I think some women get to tours like, oh my God, big waves, but what do we do? But at home we are exposed quite young. Yeah.
Speaker 3 01:09:19 Cool. What about you Jacko? Where's your biggest waves you reckon?
Speaker 11 01:09:25 Well, I'm no big wave Dave like
Speaker 3 01:09:27 <laugh> about before? Um, no,
Speaker 11 01:09:29 A lot Molly said, I think they kind of mold all in the one, those biggest sessions. Like there's probably standouts of just waves or moments of just being out there. Um, Yeah. There's no, probably one session probably like, like ma said those closing out. It's hard to tell at pipe when it is second, third reefing. It's hard to actually grasp how big it is. Yeah. Cause half the time you getting caught on the inside, coughing white water on the head and you're not actually looking up, you looking down, trying down under it,
Speaker 3 01:09:56 Hoping you let it
Speaker 11 01:09:57 Doesn't break. But um, I think it's somewhere like sunset, you get bit more of a gist of how big it is. Like I think there's one other, I surf the heat out there. I was last heat of the day. Um, they were calling it like, yeah, 10 to 12. I solid 10 to 12 and there was closeouts in the channel. All the cadies were getting washed around. So as soon as the cadies are getting moisture and you know, it's 10 to 12 plus, but
Speaker 3 01:10:17 Yeah. Anything in Hawaii
Speaker 11 01:10:19 I think you could say like, I mean, I was saying before we've had a couple days at Murray it's 10 foot, but I mean east coast swells aren't yeah, unless you go into the cycle bombies and stuff or down south coast, I just don't think it's relative compared to somewhere like sunset or park or yeah, but it's hard to put a number on it. Like you don't wanna be the guy yeah.
Speaker 3 01:10:38 Come out and it's tiny and then, um <laugh> but yeah, it's like, I swear the key is to just squat heaps on your bottom turn. That's what I find. And that's what I always, that's pretty big on. You always get real, get real low on bottom turns and you'll, and you'll be
Speaker 11 01:10:51 Sweet.
Speaker 3 01:10:51 A shot. Get that one photo like a low B angle too. Like make everything look bigger up top. I've I've worked it out. How many? No, that's been my that's been my theory, but um, how many times you been to Hawaii? Um,
Speaker 11 01:11:07 Been lucky enough to be going there every year. Since I was
Speaker 3 01:11:10 13. Really? Wow. Still haven't was that off the back of sponsors or you did?
Speaker 11 01:11:14 Um, just met the right people. Um, funny story, a good friend of mine. Kalarny David Hawaiian. He's a surf, a skater, but they from over there and they came to Newcastle and we became really good friends and weirdly it was just like a weird circumstance. He said, oh, do you wanna come back and to a trip? And I pretty much got on the plane with him the next day, how to go to get like, go to the solicitors and get a letter to say, I could go with these people. And, and then it turned out to be really good, like friends of ours now. And um, yeah, I'm lucky that just have that, all that, that place to stay. It's a, it's a tricky place to be able to stay. Like now we rip curl, we got the house and it's only open for a certain amount of time and you get more use of it as a CT service. So being a young kid, being able to stay with a local family and get taught was um, yeah, very, very lucky to have that.
Speaker 5 01:12:02 I've gotta ask you, mate, do you have any gro abuse in Hawaii? Did you, did you get, gaffa taped up to a table and tomato or squeezed up in otros or anything?
Speaker 11 01:12:11 I've had a, I've had a couple, I've had a couple.
Speaker 5 01:12:14 I know there's been a few,
Speaker 11 01:12:15 I've had a couple blow ups. Um, not me blowing up, but people mouthing off and then, um, actually had a, give us a dirt
Speaker 3 01:12:23 Jacko. That's all we're here for
Speaker 0 01:12:24 Come, mate.
Speaker 11 01:12:25 I think this one's been around, but I dunno if you guys might have heard it, but I hope he's not listening. Um, nah, I I've spoken about it a couple times. It's a pretty mellow one. Um, oh, I had a heat at sunset in like the three star. Um, and Yeah, you got me now. Um, I had, um, is his last story of Hawaii ever. Last story
Speaker 3 01:12:47 We talked about,
Speaker 0 01:12:54 We can edit out if you need to.
Speaker 11 01:12:56 I'm not gonna, I've chatted about a couple times
Speaker 0 01:12:58 We or anywhere. I think it's all, we'll take it out.
Speaker 11 01:13:00 Think it's all sweet now. Nothing bad happened. It wasn't like I was, was just contest tactics in the heat. I um, yeah, two minutes ago I had priority Evan blue was on my inside, but I had priority, but he still went the wave. Um, and I went to take off and he was standing right in front of me. So I, I pulled back to not hurt him, not run into him, threw my hands up, took about six minutes or so to, for the interference to kind of come through and ended up he got the interference, I made the heat. Um, and then yeah, I got a message from one of the local boys. I won't name the person <laugh> but someone scary enough that, um, KA Alexander actually Probably I'm dead, uh, scariest of all, but I think it was on, um, Halloween. I think they might have just been, I think over there in all respect to 'em I think they were just trying to scare me and they fuck, they scared the shit out.
Speaker 11 01:13:51 I reckon they'll all sit by on the phone and I'm gonna message this little prick and scare the shit out. Even buddy yeah. Said that like what I did was a bit disrespectful and I just, I wrote a message, message back apologizing. And that's what happens in the heat of the moment of the heat. Yeah. We spoke about it early with the, the Jordy thing. I mean, when you, when you're in a heat trying to win you, you're trying to do whatever you can. And um, like I said, you learn your lessons from those things and I'm lucky that I've been back five years since then. Now
Speaker 3 01:14:17 How old were you when you got this message from? I think I was last year scariest foods
Speaker 11 01:14:22 On that. I think I was like 18 or 19. Oh no, 19 or 20. I was just first with my misses and didn't tell anyone FamilyWise I was kind of kept on a rat. I was, um, pretty scared and um, yeah, came home back to Oz and Boscoe one of the photographers told my dad and my miss is not. Yeah. It's just like this huge. Yeah. But it ended up being sweet. I've been back. I've actually seen him in person and nothing's popped up. So, um, well not, yeah, not, not, yeah, but I don't, but, but I would, that happened so different. But I would say if that happened back in the day, when things were the way they were, I probably would've got
Speaker 3 01:15:00 Lucky. We told you about that podcast. We did with cats and, and Keely that went for, you know, a record amount of time. Um, he, his stories of gro abuse in the was about 94, 95 in Hawaii mate. They were extreme. Like they, they were literally shooting at 'em with live ammunition, making them dance and shit and like crazy shit, handcuffing him up for like days on end, um, making 'em ride. Like was it naked on the back of motorbikes in the middle of the night and all this stuff, Marvin for foster and all like was, it was heavy. So no <laugh> no, that was way worse than that mate. It was. Yeah. So, uh, yeah. KA was telling us some, you guys probably don't even know who cats is, but micro was James Cato. Yeah. Uh, mate, his stories, agro abuse in high were, were basically follow ups to those threats that you got, but they got played out the real
Speaker 11 01:15:52 Life. Well, I'm lucky then. Yeah. <laugh> touch
Speaker 3 01:15:55 Wood. Yeah. Yeah. But, um, but, but at the end of the day they were like, ah you're all right, mate, you put up with two weeks of torture and they loved him forever. So it was all like this crazy test, because like you said, um, that word, you said, uh, disrespectful. He said the text was disrespectful. It seems to be, it's like the key word in Hawaii's respect. Isn't it? Like, you always hear it through all these generations of surfers. It's always this big respect thing. And um, as soon as you cross that disrespectful line, you seem to get in a bit of trouble over there,
Speaker 5 01:16:26 But you were playing within the rule book. Right.
Speaker 11 01:16:30 Probably super similar to the Jordy thing and way. So I mean, yeah. Everything equals out in the wash. I find so, I mean, I had that one go my way that um, yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 3 01:16:43 Did Jordy one go your way too? So it,
Speaker 11 01:16:45 I got one, I got one coming for me then shouldn't have said they'll touch again.
Speaker 5 01:16:49 Yeah. What about you micro any, uh, experiences in as Aroon north or anywhere else?
Speaker 3 01:16:55 I could just see micro standing up to, um, Eddie Rothman, you and
Speaker 5 01:16:59 Aman bloody
Speaker 7 01:17:00 Mate. I had am on my side. I was fine. Yeah.
Speaker 5 01:17:02 You would've mate?
Speaker 7 01:17:04 No, I, I was, I know randomly fortunate that I was with <inaudible> at the time. And, um, it was kind of in the Andy days where obviously Andy was an absolute legend to everyone and I did a couple of trips to Tahiti with him and I got along really well with him. I was like, you know, TA was up there staying with him. So he probably didn't have a choice to hang out, but ACE and I stayed with him. Um, and lion Hamilton. Who's uh, Leah Hamilton's brother apparently anyway. And um, yeah, we just hung out for like two weeks and surfed and I feel like from then on, and then obviously Kai's kind of dude and he was the, the dude on the north shore and I randomly kind of got tow through and got along with all those guys. And so I was pretty fortunate.
Speaker 7 01:17:53 There's obviously there was a few scenarios where you kinda were a scared, but I feel like I was, I was so fortunate to have those guys. They kind of smooth things over, over pretty quick, but it's um, yeah's an intimidating place. You kind of like, you never, you never really sleep easy at night. Not sure what you've done. And you come in from the surf and you, like, I remember one day I got a, a barrel out pipe and I came in stoked and got a head down, run at the beach and ran up the track. And it was like the old days where you don't even look at the welcome house. Cause it was the welcome house. And like, you know, the old story of the whistles. If you hear a whistle you're gonna die. And, and, and I was like, run up the track.
Speaker 7 01:18:33 And then as I went up the stairs, someone from the V house pulled out and I was like, fuck, here we go. And I, all I did was go a barrel. I was stoked. Didn't know what I did wrong, but anyway, it was Cobo and he was all stoked. Cause he saw my wave and he was frosting out for me. And I was like, ran down the track, all stoked thinking. I'm fine, I've survived. But it's um, yeah, it's an intimidating place. You, yeah, it's definitely it's changing now though. Like a lot of people, a lot of the older stories back in the day are it's way different now
Speaker 9 01:19:02 It's cause everyone's got a camera in their pocket. That's why makes a big difference. So
Speaker 7 01:19:06 Yeah, no, it's I feel like Annie's got a lot to kind be grateful for. What he's done is kind of like he got along with M and Joel and all those crew and Taj and then they kinda of like, you know, someone who was standing next to Andy couldn't go and punch Taj in the head because he did nothing wrong with cuz he was mates with Andy. So it almost be kind
Speaker 3 01:19:27 Campbell. Know anything about this or Campbell? Yeah.
Speaker 7 01:19:30 No one fucking M Campbell that was kinda like, he was like the crazy ringer that could throw him.
Speaker 3 01:19:36 Does Molly and Jacko. They probably don't. They worked when they even born. When that she went down,
Speaker 7 01:19:40 You know, was an absolute legend of a human I've only
Speaker 9 01:19:44 Heard the, they
Speaker 3 01:19:46 Didn't leave it in the water. Jacko took it to the beach. They threw to
Speaker 7 01:19:49 The shower.
Speaker 3 01:19:50 Remember? Oh yeah. Andy S tried to smack Johnny boy games.
Speaker 7 01:19:55 Yeah. That's I'm not telling that story. You go Molly
Speaker 11 01:19:58 That one's GN
Speaker 3 01:20:00 Micros tapping. Sorry about
Speaker 11 01:20:02 That. No, that one's gnarly too.
Speaker 9 01:20:03 It's can we hear it? What's that the, the,
Speaker 3 01:20:07 Oh, and, and sunny and
Speaker 9 01:20:09 Yeah, there's a few,
Speaker 6 01:20:11 He dive down a big rabbit hole with all those and I
Speaker 11 01:20:13 Don't, you can sit here all night. Yeah, yeah. Probably half a mature and
Speaker 3 01:20:16 Half hour. You guys are gonna go back to Hawaii so maybe should change the subject there.
Speaker 0 01:20:19 So what we do wanna actually do, What I do actually wanna do is see if that any of our mates who are up, um, watching in shareholders, any questions, anybody, you have a question for any of the three of our special guests today,
Speaker 3 01:20:35 They can have a think about it. There is a think of cheeky monkey for best question of the night. Apparently
Speaker 0 01:20:40 Four pack. I think they've already at least four. Each mate.
Speaker 3 01:20:44 They've already, they've already had a four pack. Six we'll go six. Come on. No, we don't have the six pack holders.
Speaker 0 01:20:51 That's the thing. Six pack. And maybe a t-shirt maybe. So,
Speaker 3 01:20:54 Have a think about it. Boise, if you got something that you wanna, anyone wants to ask? Um, yeah, just put your hand up and, and rip in.
Speaker 0 01:21:02 Go Molly. I know you wanna say something. What have you got?
Speaker 6 01:21:04 Oh, know what so about inspired on employees.
Speaker 9 01:21:07 Just
Speaker 3 01:21:08 How good that.
Speaker 9 01:21:10 Yeah,
Speaker 3 01:21:10 No, they're funny guys. Do you guys watch a Raglin surf report? That guy's a,
Speaker 11 01:21:14 That guys,
Speaker 3 01:21:15 Like a hell QS surfer, micro,
Speaker 0 01:21:16 Or like sediment?
Speaker 7 01:21:18 I don't remember him as, I mean fucking ribs, riffs.
Speaker 11 01:21:21 I think he was on the QS for a little
Speaker 7 01:21:23 Bit. Okay.
Speaker 11 01:21:24 Probably just a grinder, but
Speaker 9 01:21:25 He surf he's big.
Speaker 11 01:21:27 He's good at what he does.
Speaker 3 01:21:28 He's a funny boss. Fucking
Speaker 9 01:21:30 Help.
Speaker 7 01:21:31 He he's up there. He's one of the best he follows for sure.
Speaker 9 01:21:34 Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 01:21:35 Um, alright, well, uh, mate, this is a question I like to ask everyone. Um, you
Speaker 7 01:21:40 Trying to win a six?
Speaker 9 01:21:41 Yeah.
Speaker 3 01:21:42 <laugh>
Speaker 11 01:21:42 He trying win six
Speaker 3 01:21:47 Mate. You be in it to win it. I gonna give that shit away. I mean, I drink a lot.
Speaker 9 01:21:51 So
Speaker 3 01:21:52 <laugh> mate, uh, was good one. He stitched me out. That was good.
Speaker 3 01:21:59 No. Um, mate, before, before I do ask this question, we, we probably should have given you a heads up, which we blatantly didn't. Um, this podcast, we have a AER cup where you get to air your grievances. Um, you might wanna not make it Hawaii orientated, um, where you get to nominate anyone for just being a total fuck with like, like Clive Palmer. Um, and then on the flip side, you get to nominate, uh, two people for the steep looks like Molly's already got one micro. The coach has given it the old hand through the neck. You're not so
Speaker 11 01:22:30 Molly spit it on
Speaker 3 01:22:31 Molly, spit it out. And then on the flip side you get the Steve IWiN salute where you get to give the double thumbs up to fucking anyone. Who's just been a hell
Speaker 9 01:22:41 Legend. Yeah.
Speaker 3 01:22:42 Um, but we'll give you time to think about that cuz we forgot to tell you earlier. So, um, while we thinking about it, mate, one other question. I two questions. I like, I like to ask every surfer who comes in here and, and it's, it's like worst wipe out in best tube. So Jacko worst wipe out, ever
Speaker 9 01:23:01 Worst wipe out.
Speaker 11 01:23:03 Uh, I'll go best tube first. Okay. It makes it bit easier. Yeah. Even though I didn't make that one at pipe, that first wave, is it just the vision and is it how, oh man. And just the, just the build up to it all and how it all came about and not getting any waves in pre surfs. And then finally getting that one chance and more the self-talk to get myself over the ledge and have a stab at it. Like just the buildup of it and to the finish, if I was to come out of it, I probably would've. I probably would've claimed it like an absolute banker. Well, it would've been a 10. Um, yeah, but I am, I am a sucker for a couple claims, but that's all emotion and oh, I love it. Sometimes you just gotta let it go. But um, yeah, I think just the buildup and everything was around that wave makes it yeah, probably the best wave I've had. And really
Speaker 3 01:23:45 I actually watched it about, it was only about five or six days ago. It just popped up somewhere and it was like,
Speaker 11 01:23:50 I'll still watch it every day. I'm not
Speaker 3 01:23:51 Gonna watch <laugh>
Speaker 0 01:23:52 I just
Speaker 11 01:23:52 Wanna it's on me phone.
Speaker 0 01:23:55 Big shout out Jack Baker's tube in uh, super two boss.
Speaker 11 01:24:00 Yeah,
Speaker 0 01:24:00 That was a sick
Speaker 11 01:24:01 One. Yeah, that was, that was a pretty good one too. Especially one pressure when you need a score too, that one was that
Speaker 6 01:24:06 One was that's when the claims come flying
Speaker 11 01:24:08 <laugh> yeah. That's when the claims come out. That one. But um,
Speaker 3 01:24:11 So it's you are running on the, if you are claiming best tube ever is the one you didn't make you're running the, is it the Nathan Fletcher theory? Where if, um, if you make it outta the tube, you weren't deep
Speaker 11 01:24:20 Enough. Yep. Actually. Yeah. But, um, and then worst wipe out. I was pretty young over in Hawaii. Um, I wasn't actually a wipe out. I was just in the lineup and just got caught on an ABO where it was massive and started third reefing and kind of just didn't know where to be in the lineup and wore about five third reefers on the head and popped up in the channel and I must have passed out or something and up in the channel and yeah, I was kinda just sitting with a couple people. I was like, holy fuck. How did I get in? No bored just in the channel. Oh really?
Speaker 3 01:24:55 <laugh>
Speaker 11 01:24:56 Nah, just lost it all. But how old were you? 14.
Speaker 13 01:25:01 Fuck.
Speaker 11 01:25:02 Yeah. They might not have been third reefing, but when I was 14 it was fucking, but I just remember like, I, I don't think I, I must have just been really dazed. Like I just must have just got a breath every time and yeah, by the time I'd got to the channel, I was gased
Speaker 3 01:25:17 So yeah. Sounds
Speaker 11 01:25:18 Good. It's not really a wipe out. It's just been in a shit spot
Speaker 3 01:25:21 When I was being, I was third car parking at trig fucking <laugh> just like a one footer on the best of the,
Speaker 6 01:25:29 I feel like they are the worst. Wipeouts the one foot days.
Speaker 3 01:25:32 Oh, you always get hurt on small stuff, mate. You always
Speaker 11 01:25:34 Hit your board. You don't expect it on the big days. You'd like, at least you're ready for the small days you get like three foot. Literally.
Speaker 0 01:25:41 What about you, Molly?
Speaker 6 01:25:42 You got Molly. I think best tube would be. I was, I, I was stepped off into it. I don't know if you counted around here, but I'm gonna go
Speaker 11 01:25:51 With it. That was a big final of it too big.
Speaker 6 01:25:55 Yeah. But I, um, stepped off into a tube at south Strat
Speaker 5 01:26:04 <laugh>
Speaker 0 01:26:05 Who,
Speaker 5 01:26:06 Who stepped you off?
Speaker 6 01:26:07 And it was like, I dunno, the probably darkest scariest, thickest tube. I didn't even get foot jots. I don't even have like memory, but it's just in my brain, how much I was hitting myself <laugh> and my manage to actually step me off into it. And he was like, he told me, he thought I, he killed me and I was frothing cuz then I made it and it was like, I got, I never really get spa attitudes and I got super spa out and I was just like, so that's probably my favorite tube would be that one. And then wipe out. I think when I was just a Groman, I was real scared and got like a two-way hold down, had to Molly. And I swear ever since I haven't had that bad. Cause I yeah, that about it.
Speaker 0 01:26:51 How a way hold down. <laugh>
Speaker 3 01:26:56 Where was your way to down Molly?
Speaker 6 01:26:58 Uh, one of our like bigger beaches forest. Yeah. It's just like a big rolling
Speaker 3 01:27:05 Shout out to Forester, a state winery. And one of our sponsors
Speaker 0 01:27:08 Nicely done a he,
Speaker 5 01:27:12 The Cabernet thousand 19 is bloody beautiful.
Speaker 0 01:27:17 A lovely drop.
Speaker 3 01:27:18 Um, I once had a two bottle hold down from there joint <laugh>
Speaker 5 01:27:23 I thought you, that
Speaker 0 01:27:25 Was coming that may, may have been your finest work right there.
Speaker 5 01:27:29 Oh, we can't leave micro outta this. I reckon knows.
Speaker 0 01:27:33 I've got an idea as well.
Speaker 5 01:27:35 Didn't know you were
Speaker 7 01:27:37 He's my coach. Yeah,
Speaker 5 01:27:38 He
Speaker 7 01:27:43 He's probably wrong, but my obvious wipe out and Fiji is probably my most annoying wipe out <laugh> but not my worst wipe out. But yeah, I know it's Fiji's the obvious one where you got smash on a little coral head thing, but
Speaker 3 01:28:01 Uh, hold ho, hold on sec, man. You you're just gonna brush over that thing. You're allowed, you're allowed to have two wipe outs to worries. If you feel you've got a worse one, but you blatantly brushed over that one. As you wiped down a little coral head, um, you broke your back in comp, is it competition or warmup at restaurants? Like, yeah.
Speaker 7 01:28:15 That's
Speaker 3 01:28:16 One of the shallowest waves on the planet. Like you can't just brush over that like, oh yeah. I hit a little coral head.
Speaker 7 01:28:23 No, I was trying to be specific. Cuz you asked which the worst one that was most annoying one <laugh> no, that, that one sucked. It was like, yeah, over the falls restaurants and um, I was a bit deep, but I was deliberately deep cause I had Jody my heat and we were way out the reef. And then there's this coral head that I got flexed over backwards and kind of did the old scorpion over and there and was, it was like a good six foot so, or maybe bigger actually, but it was um, all the water was pushed me against this thing and I was like kind of flexed over. And I li like, obviously I wanted to get off cause I hurt. But also to get up, cause it was like, I was flex against this thing and couldn't get up. And then it rolled me off.
Speaker 7 01:29:05 Then my leg rope was wrapped around it and then I was getting sucked towards the shore and I was like still trying to get up. Cause it hurt and I wanted to get up cause it's I could breathe. And then, um, my leg rope snapped and that's how I came up. And then, um, yeah, and then I, I go it up and I got my board cause it didn't disappear. And then I remember ping out and there was a huge set coming cuz I was like kind of with the old shuffle on your board and, and I, it sounds a bit trippy and weird and kind of hippy. But I remember thinking if I don't get through these waves, like my back bottom half, my body's gonna just literally to snap off. It was weird. And then, um, I just got, I didn't have to duck or anything. I just kind of got over all these big sets and got outta the back and then cruised up and sat at the back, trying to like get my shit together and think I was all right. And then I sat, I asked Jordy to check my back and figure it was just fucked and he could see my spine and he was like, oh, there's a couple of scratches.
Speaker 0 01:30:03 <laugh>
Speaker 7 01:30:04 And it was like nothing that bad. So I was like, right. I'm sweet. It's bad. Like off another one. Yeah, no. And then I actually in my head, I was like, right, I'll just go on a little one and see if I can get up. And then there's another whippy here, weird hippy kind of fucking crystal rubbing thing in my head. It was like, I couldn't visualize getting to my feet. All I could visualize in my head was like going, not getting my feet and nose dive and like lying down. It was weird. Like it was like, my brain was just going, don't do it. Like you're not gonna get up. And so I paddle it for a wave and I was like the weirdest thing. I was like, my brain was just wouldn. Let my body go the wave. And then anyway, I got the jet scheme and went in, but that was, I know most annoying wipe out.
Speaker 0 01:30:44 <laugh> that's Herby, it's a new category. The most annoying wipe out. <laugh> pretty much every wipe out I have
Speaker 5 01:30:51 That wasn't during a heat. Was it?
Speaker 7 01:30:52 That was it. That's why I was annoying. Cause I didn't get to finish
Speaker 5 01:30:54 My heat with Jordy. Oh
Speaker 7 01:30:56 Yeah. And it was shit. It was pumping pub and restaurants. I was
Speaker 3 01:31:00 That could easily classify as your worst wipe out. I mean had some pretty fucked up details. I'm glad we press you for that. But no, that makes me intrigued as to what is your worst wipe out then? And if that wasn't
Speaker 7 01:31:10 No, I think my worst one, I actually we've said this 50 times on our country in to come to the podcast. We were talking shit on the drive for Mars. And I was just talking about, um, causes is big right now we talking about didn't Billy Keer go the falls or something. Jump,
Speaker 0 01:31:26 Billy jumped
Speaker 11 01:31:27 Up on psycho, my goodness. And he goes, and his caption was, you never know if you don't go. And I was just like, what do you mean over
Speaker 0 01:31:33 The, on 12 foot?
Speaker 7 01:31:35 Yeah, that was, and it made me think of my, my wipe out there. That was my worst one where I'd I was in the trials for, for the event and I was pretty young and I was with a and Walsh and uh, Ian Walsh who's obviously he was kind of roughly our age and he was fucking way, way more hardcore, big ways than us. So he had that thing where he like wanted to match him and do as good as him. And he was, he had the cover of waves, magazine, charging pipe and whatever. So he kinda had that thing where you're like, Don let your mate down. And we're in, I was in a heat and I had this guy in my heat, who was, I was still on this force. That's probably just it, but had this French guy in my heat, who was like at the time I remember thinking his heats old and in the free surf was just being a real Dick.
Speaker 7 01:32:19 So he was in my heat and I was just <laugh> I wouldn't have beat him so bad. And then this set came and while she was in the channel and ACE and they was telling me to go and I was like, it was just one of those unable ones, but that old guy was there. I just wanted to prove a point and jump outta the falls in the, the worst part was like, it felt like I landed literally on dry reef, straight on my knee cap. And it like blew my knee cap kinda went off. I had x-rays and had like a split in my knee cap and whatever, but that was like, I still swear. I can feel hitting the reef. Like it felt like there was no water. It was the weirdest gross feeling. And then, but I beat the French guy though, so. Awesome.
Speaker 5 01:33:00 Beautiful, beautiful. Well, I go, I go to the crowd as the crowd thought of any questions
Speaker 7 01:33:06 For, uh,
Speaker 0 01:33:08 Sam, come over
Speaker 5 01:33:09 Back, come over
Speaker 3 01:33:11 Over Sammy Morrison. He's been a guest of the podcast.
Speaker 0 01:33:13 Give us your name and your
Speaker 7 01:33:15 To
Speaker 0 01:33:15 Know, um, nah, name first
Speaker 7 01:33:18 Sammy.
Speaker 0 01:33:19 Yeah, we know you Sam, but the listeners don't know that Sammy. Yeah.
Speaker 7 01:33:22 Well this who it's
Speaker 5 01:33:24 <laugh>
Speaker 7 01:33:26 I just, um, like to know you training nine, five Monday to Friday.
Speaker 11 01:33:34 Um, I think, I think most everyone, Q S CT has a pretty strict training regime, I guess it involves surfing multiple times a day. Um, I personally, I work with a fellow in Newcast called Adam trips. Uh, he's a strength conditioning coach. He's worked with, uh, monster rugby over in Ireland and a couple of Japanese rugby teams and he's a surfer himself. So he's kind of come into that environment, uh, with myself, uh, Ryan car and a couple other locals and yeah, I believe wholeheartedly in what he does. And I feel like what we do in the gym. Yeah. Is that extra 1% or all those 10, like there's little extras that, I mean natural talent and gets you so far. And if you're that little bit stronger and God, I mean, yeah. Going for a certain Mo surf, you can, I think the biggest thing, but then those little things you can tick over. I mean, even think a little bit of mindfulness or meditation, I've brought into my surfing and I feel like that just slows my brain up, especially on comp days when there's so much going on you,
Speaker 11 01:34:36 You're thinking about who you got, what you want to do, but just to be able to 10 minutes just switch off and it kind of, you just forget about that. I think it, it really saves me cuz I'm a, he probably heard, well we're on a podcast, but I talk a lot of shit and I talk, so for me to just switch off for 10 minutes is a huge thing. So, um, yeah. I switch off meditation every morning for 10 minutes and oh dear train three times, three times a week and yeah, surf as much as I can, but I mean still a sucker for a spoon or 10. So I mean, I still fit those in when it's the appropriate time and I mean, everyone has different diets and stuff, but I think it's all in moderation. And if you just choose the right things at the right time, you can still enjoy what you, what you can. Yeah.
Speaker 5 01:35:16 Before we go to moley to answer the question I wanted to ask you has Hoyo imparted, any training regime on you mate, coming from the same team?
Speaker 11 01:35:23 I do. We have had some board riders contests where our training regime has been involving 10 or more SCHs. Um, but no, it was pretty funny after I, after I won, um, the Newcastle QS, um, he only got him my ear at the pub and it was pretty funny, just a bit of liquid confidence with just chat and shit. And, but nah, just the tip. What did he tell you mate? What tell? He just gave me good tips for bells. He just said shorten up your bottom turn and rip it off the top. And it pretty much just screamed into my ear. And I was like, I just wanna do a turn like you out there. So I, I, I gave it a good nudge and I mean, just for someone like that to wanna, wanna give you some tips was, um, I mean, growing up, watching someone like that, it's pretty, pretty freaking cool for him to pull you aside at the pub and fucking scream in your ear. It's pretty sick.
Speaker 0 01:36:06 What legend ho I'll tell you what I'll tell you what ho never did. He never won the new castle surf as a overcast, like man Jack O baby over to win the competition. You fucking legend.
Speaker 11 01:36:23 <laugh> thanks guys.
Speaker 0 01:36:25 All right, Molly. Someone
Speaker 11 01:36:25 Had to do it.
Speaker 0 01:36:27 Yes, mate. Well done. So sick
Speaker 6 01:36:29 Training for me. I think when I'm at home, I tend to just try and get again in the gym as much as I can, but I'm super dictated from what the ways are doing. I think if the waves are pumping, then I try and put as much, um, time and effort into that. And I'll surf six, eight hours, four hours, two hours, whatever the waves are. Um, and I'll try and do that nine five, but um, if the waves are terrible, then I'll fill that space with gym or like meditations stuff. I normally just do around events and stuff. But um, leading into events I think is probably a bit different. I just surf and conserve energy. And if I feel like again, if there's I, if I haven't had great preparation in the water, because the waves haven't been good, then I'll try and tick a few boxes off land by going to the gym. But it's pretty simple. And I, you kind of just go with how you feel and yeah. Do your best in and out of the water.
Speaker 0 01:37:24 Yeah. Nice. Now we have another listener question. Oh, listener, shouldn't say listener part of the podcast now <laugh>
Speaker 11 01:37:31 He's in the seat. He look,
Speaker 18 01:37:33 He looks the part.
Speaker 0 01:37:36 Give us your name, your question. Young man.
Speaker 18 01:37:38 Ah, Steve, uh, me, whatever you wanna call me. Uh, my question would be, if you could pray to the surf gods for this week with the marvs contest coming up, looks like a bit of a sketchy forecast. Mm-hmm <affirmative> what would be, and if you could make it to the final, what would be your ideal conditions and who would it be up against?
Speaker 6 01:37:57 Is he in the six pack or what?
Speaker 11 01:37:59 <laugh>, that's a, that's an in depth question. I like
Speaker 0 01:38:01 It. I think he's got a six pack. Look at him. He's pretty rich
Speaker 6 01:38:05 You if you
Speaker 11 01:38:06 Want. Ah, Nah, I think, I think, um,
Speaker 18 01:38:13 Staff factor is allowed as a, if it's Kelly in, that's totally fine for staff actors. I
Speaker 11 01:38:17 Feel as though just with how good he is at Margie's. I feel like someone like John John would be a dream final. I mean the dream scenario would be you're giving us the dream scenario. It's your dream. You smoke him. Um, but I mean, just to be able to share a final with him out there, I mean, anything above six 40 is fucking pretty deadly out there. So yeah, I don't know, six to eight, six to 10 foot. Margie's pretty clean. But with that true Western Australian style, like real brisk, offshore and beautiful day and late AVO everyone's on the tins and you come in and rip the head off. When you come in, after you win with the trophy,
Speaker 18 01:38:54 Well said
Speaker 0 01:38:56 Hop
Speaker 18 01:38:58 Six, eight foot Margie's clean and John, John. Perfect.
Speaker 19 01:39:01 Well, you, you passed it. <laugh> you run?
Speaker 11 01:39:04 First thing I passed it all <laugh> didn't do to well school.
Speaker 6 01:39:08 Um, I think it sounds cliche, but I think it would be out the box to take women. There would be incredible. And to do that at first, um, and then on the day and the swell being perfect. So we can chip in and it's not super NA and just get spa. Our tubes with Cara, I think would be pretty sick to go head to head and take it home for the Aussies on home. So, you know, would be pretty
Speaker 0 01:39:34 Good that, yeah. Thanks Steve. Me, Steve Merick here. Good friend of ours and uh, yeah. Thanks for the, thanks for the question, mate. Is anybody else, uh, wanna ask a question before we move on the Palm Timmy? Haynesworth he's up, Tim?
Speaker 19 01:39:54 You, how do you get into the coaching side of things, mate? So is it from golfing and you telling people its <laugh> The feet aren't lined up or like a lot of like's a lot of,
Speaker 7 01:40:17 I guess there's like there's no direct pathway that you kinda,
Speaker 7 01:40:22 You know, that's set for you to jump on and, and be a part of it. For me personally, I, I had an ankle injury when I, well I guess my own surf journey, I was, I was always one to try and be crafty and I was well down on the list of talent. So I had to find ways. Thank you. No <laugh> no, I had to find ways to get through it. It was like, I didn't take that as a, as a, I embraced that as a challenge, you know, I, I actually loved it from, in the gym to on the beach and, and finding ways to kind of improve in every little way. And I feel like that was kinda my whole WQS to world, to a kind of journey and, and I guess that's the coaching philosophy and a nutshell. So yeah, and my, my serving career was that, and then I had an ankle injury somewhere along the line in my, um, QSU that I was pretty much outta the water for six or eight months or something.
Speaker 7 01:41:24 And there's a bunch of local young kids who I, who wanted to do some coaching. They were just like full, you know, and 14, 16 year olds who weren't well at all, but just enjoyed serving. And their parents were looking for someone to do the old after school coaching session for 20 bucks. And I just kinda just went with it. And there was a little crew that I really got along with and I started doing it and I had the, I, I, I had the moment where I was like to these kids, like in, and my feet and them kind of like the, the dream of making the tour. And I genuinely knew they weren't going to, they weren't that type of surfer at all. And, and then I actually spoke to a couple of the parents and they were like, you know, we're just stoked.
Speaker 7 01:42:05 They're around someone who's keeping 'em in the water. They're not out, you know, in the park trying to steal shit and they're, they're happy and they're, they're stuck around on you and you're feeding positive, positive reinforcement. And then that to me was like when I went all in on it and I had my own surf career from then, but the passion for coaching and just helping young kids and helping young kids then led into, you know, helping kind of, you know, QS surfers that I traveled with. And I had the opportunity to work with some QS crew and then along the way, and then I found my way, just found myself in some opportunities to help some crew like Wilco and then ACE. And then yeah, just kind of had that opportunity. And then end of my career Wilco was there and kind of was the, the timing was right. And I, you know, to be honest, got pretty lucky too, that I ended my career and will co was ready, kind of start his real competitive career after having a few years of fluffing around. And, and then Owen was there and Tyler and I got lucky with the opportunities, but I feel like that was where the coaching
Speaker 5 01:43:12 Tim over Tim.
Speaker 19 01:43:17 I liked it. Sorry. Mike's um, so it's not just, it's all about, it's not just about surfing then, is it? It's about, um, people's lifestyles and you giving good life skills as well and, uh, intentions, you know, it's not just surfing, is
Speaker 7 01:43:31 It for sure? That's like that to me is the, you know, coaching philosophy that I really enjoyed, you know, and I, I, the story of when I first started working with Tyler, like she was obviously kinda earmarked as a world champ and was meant to be a world champ and she'd already come second in the world a couple times. And, and I didn't really know her that well at all. I knew Ellen kind of pretty well. And I kind of fell into this opportunity to work with Tyler, cuz she rang me up and said, I heard you coach now. And you've got a spot on the, on the team. And I drove down to, um, where she was living in the off season. It was kinda like a full, like a I'm just winging it really scenario. And I was like,
Speaker 5 01:44:13 Joking catch two waves and fucking,
Speaker 7 01:44:15 You know, but like the answer, your question, like I literally said, I was like, I dunno if I'm meant to be telling you, I want you to win more than anything in the world. And like I was like, but I actually don't like, I want you to be happy and healthy, do really fucking well in comps and both of us at the end of the year. And I didn't seriously didn't know how that would land with her. And, but I can't look someone in the eye and go sacrifice your, you know, and your relationships and your relationship with your parents and all the, all the things that you enjoy in life. I can't tell someone and sacrifice all that and then go and win a world title and then just crumble from there. Cause they've burn all their bridges along the way. So I look at, I look at Taja and think he's fucking nailed it. He had a sick balance career and he didn't win a world title, but fuck he had a, he had an epic balance and without a doubt, he can look back and go there moments where he kind of sway one way or the other a bit. But he an epic balance. He wasn't like the guy who just kinda shut off in the world and he enjoyed his travels and he's a, he's a legend he's you know, and I, I look at him as a, as a great role role of that.
Speaker 5 01:45:23 Great, great question, Tim. Great, great response. Hey, just one quick, one micro you talked about, well, Timbo talked about golf. Timbo is a mean golfer. What's your handicap mate.
Speaker 7 01:45:37 Oh,
Speaker 5 01:45:39 He's
Speaker 7 01:45:40 No, my, my golf story just as fucking weird as my, my surf. Yeah, no, no
Speaker 5 01:45:48 You left, right?
Speaker 7 01:45:50 No, I was right handed
Speaker 5 01:45:52 Say you're a lefty.
Speaker 7 01:45:53 I am now. Yeah.
Speaker 5 01:45:54 Good on you mate.
Speaker 7 01:45:55 <laugh> yes.
Speaker 0 01:45:56 Start
Speaker 5 01:45:57 It swings both ways. Yes. <laugh>
Speaker 7 01:46:02 Yourself in the shedding.
Speaker 5 01:46:03 That's more question yourself there pack. Is that time of the <laugh>
Speaker 7 01:46:07 Well on hold on for even one, one, all one,
Speaker 0 01:46:14 Right? I dunno if we're actually gonna do the Clive partner cup. We might just go to Steve, Evan salute. Cause these guys have gotta, um, shoot off, but any other questions from, come on Tre. I know you've got some sort of physical, physical therapy question
Speaker 5 01:46:26 Tre from
Speaker 3 01:46:27 Down south physio. He's let him touch you. He's got the magic hands.
Speaker 5 01:46:32 There You
Speaker 0 01:46:32 Go. I think he's touched everybody in this. Hey guys.
Speaker 21 01:46:37 Um, it's great to listen to you guys. I really appreciate you inviting me as well. Finally, we got here. Yeah. Thanks guys. And thanks in the PR as well.
Speaker 0 01:46:44 We've actually got a, um, podcast coming up, just we tr to give us some. Oh, okay. Yeah. Some tips on how to, how to use your body correctly.
Speaker 4 01:46:51 Did you bring a massage table? Sorry? Did you bring the table? Oh man. I'm happy to look after right here. Right in front of us shake the chicken creamies yeah, totally.
Speaker 21 01:47:01 Um,
Speaker 4 01:47:02 So my question was, um,
Speaker 21 01:47:04 Cause uh, Sammy asked about the training questions. I was obviously thinking about, do you guys think that surfers have the, the most bravery out all the athletes out, all the other sports around the world? Um, well how do you think you compare? And um, also I, I was thinking, um, with the, with injuries, like I've heard about your injuries, I've met you before actually the couple years ago or three years ago, but you wouldn't remember me anyway, just hanging in the corner,
Speaker 4 01:47:44 Get trouble with the physio registration board pretty quick stop and touched me. But um, He said I'm horny for
Speaker 21 01:47:55 Quads not long
Speaker 4 01:47:56 Ago. He's probably pretty correct. But um, so show you quads. Yeah. But um, if you guys, uh, in terms of
Speaker 21 01:48:04 You guys' CT surf, what's the, the heaviest injury that you've had so far if you've had or, um, or ones that you've heard of
Speaker 0 01:48:14 Can try fix it. <laugh>
Speaker 4 01:48:16 I reckon I'd have a good cracker. Yeah. Yeah. And I'd be above board. I
Speaker 21 01:48:19 Promise
Speaker 4 01:48:20 <laugh>
Speaker 6 01:48:22 Um, I think personally for me, I haven't had many injuries, but one that I struggle with a ni is an I in my, my hip it's like the impingement and um,
Speaker 4 01:48:34 No one knows what that means, except for
Speaker 6 01:48:37 Let's try. Explain
Speaker 4 01:48:38 That. How on Trevor? What is it? Femoral acid.
Speaker 21 01:48:39 Tabular.
Speaker 6 01:48:40 Impingement. Yes.
Speaker 4 01:48:41 Hold on. He's Hey. Yeah. Azzy
Speaker 6 01:48:47 Gave light explain a little bit more if you want,
Speaker 0 01:48:51 Hold onto it. Hold onto it. Trav.
Speaker 4 01:48:53 No
Speaker 21 01:48:53 Worries.
Speaker 6 01:48:54 Um, so, and I personally struggle with that and I know some surfers struggle with labor tears in their hips. So I think a hip imbalance is very common in surfers. Um, just because I think naturally we stand one way and we fight, like we push resistance all day, every day, one way and like with the king knee. So it's super imbalanced, but it's kind of a imperfect perfect. Cuz it, that is what creates our style and what creates us to do what we, um, do. So I think it's, it's a catch cause I swear, whenever you feel leveled, sometimes you get out there and you feel not as good cuz you're not like set in your way, but um, um, yeah, and I think other injuries like ACLS are huge. You've seen me and John struggle and struggle with that and that's probably why to this day we keep <laugh>
Speaker 21 01:49:46 A long time
Speaker 6 01:49:47 For sure. Over
Speaker 23 01:49:47 The last few years. And he did really well.
Speaker 6 01:49:51 Yeah.
Speaker 21 01:49:52 Training actually a couple ago. Yes. And yeah, the training with uh, MMA guy, guy, Sean local here and uh, Spooner and really worked hard on that. So ACLS are pretty common. The injuries and hip injuries are huge.
Speaker 6 01:50:11 And I think that's why it's like heightened this train in the gym is to protect those ACLS and hips and all sorts. And obviously the shoulder, um, injuries as well that I know Leo and a bunch of people have gone through. So I guess they're the three that I'd point out for surfing that of a bunch of crew struggle with. What about you Jacko?
Speaker 21 01:50:32 He's it sounds
Speaker 3 01:50:32 Like she Molly's really aware of mate. No, seriously. That was a really in depth answer. And that whole, if you're outta balance is maybe a trained, um, a good way to be because you are outta balance only you, if you're a natural footie, you your right. Foot's always back and
Speaker 7 01:50:49 It's Watson,
Speaker 21 01:50:50 What is it?
Speaker 7 01:50:51 And
Speaker 3 01:50:51 Oh mate. <laugh> what's it's fucking,
Speaker 24 01:50:56 That's why I
Speaker 25 01:50:57 FAI Tony knows about IPA. That's about it.
Speaker 3 01:51:01 Yeah. IPAs that's I, I, I know that.
Speaker 3 01:51:08 No, but mate Molly, seriously, you mate, that was, uh, a surprise, good answer for someone so young to have such an awareness and understanding of like, yeah, I mean you're a professional athlete, so you're gonna, you have to know your body. But, um, that was a really interesting point that uh, yeah, like as surf is we spend our whole lives either, you know, pig do in that way or yeah, perhaps in that way. And it's, it's like the old, uh, it's like the theory of the, the stoned fucking shaper creating the asymmetrical board. Isn't it like actually goes better that way. So even though it's not balanced, maybe it's better. I dunno.
Speaker 7 01:51:44 Is that why you wear odd thong?
Speaker 3 01:51:46 Uh, yes. Two, one <laugh>
Speaker 0 01:51:52 As he on fire in the, she absolutely on fire.
Speaker 6 01:51:57 It's all down here. That's
Speaker 15 01:51:59 Amazing. It's just <laugh>
Speaker 0 01:52:04 Yeah. Look, look at the properties on, um, Jacko injuries.
Speaker 23 01:52:09 Um, personally myself, I've been pretty lucky couple, um,
Speaker 11 01:52:15 Niggling ankle injuries, like, um, couple CSMs on both ankles and um, high ankle strains and just shit from dumb airs and being a big LA and doing that stuff. And these dishes probably more prior to my strengthening conditioning, not knowing to warm up and like, I think the biggest thing is for me. Um, now I have the injuries and they still on cold mornings. They, my, my ankles feel sore, but I know that's just a mental thing. And um, but I think the warmup side, like doing not so much stretches, but movement stuff, pre pre surf, um, like I said, touch wood, uh, seems to be working and um, yeah, just, um, yeah, loosening up and right. The training and everything, getting everything strong around those important parts of your body, like your ankles and your knees. And um, I know the time, the last time that I did do my ankle, I was, I didn't do a up and I just got out of a 10 hour car drive in Europe and I decided to do a backside air and crunch me ankles.
Speaker 11 01:53:11 So, so now I know that when I do those warm ups and stuff like that, but I think probably the biggest thing to bring up in a chat like this, doesn't get talked about marches, probably the head injuries, like, um, concussions. It's such a thing, concussions huge in, in football and stuff. And Molly's wearing the hell at, at the box and stuff. I think that's something that, that WSL is actually helping us with in, um, having helmets at the beach Marshall at certain locations when we need it. And, um, things like that. It's, it's something that's like, Tyler's gone through it. I'd rather Ireland's gone through it. Like to see it, it affects you a lot. And I think just to be able to awareness about that and to, to find out more about it. Cause I mean, I think a lot of times that people have had concussions, it's gone unnoticed and it's come back to, to bite people later in life.
Speaker 6 01:53:56 Can I just add to Ono's point pre pipe, they did some concussion testing and I dunno for a fact, but from what I heard, U surfers actually didn't even pass the standard concussion pre
Speaker 11 01:54:09 Wipe out, couldn't pass. It didn't even know that they'd had any real.
Speaker 6 01:54:13 So, so that just shows like how much over a course of a professional and surfing these NLY waves that they put us in is out coming at a cost,
Speaker 7 01:54:22 Especially over here in west. I feel like it's like, not just you, but you know, and you surf Nelly waves over here. Like, and I feel like the one thing is just getting raged old. Doesn't have to hit the roof to, to get head head injury. And I feel like being raged old, we probably all know that feeling of coming up, feeling a bit dizzy and light head and it's, you know, the, the bravery and you, once you get on with it and it's like the old footy of like get back up and make, take the next hit up and whatever, but like, yeah, it's good to raise the point Jacko. And I feel like head injuries. It obviously leads that ongoing later in life kinda consequences
Speaker 21 01:55:01 I can to that Walsh train. He SYSM a few ago and did really well. He trained really hard as well. Uh, he was pretty serious and he's, he's a good fellow. We have a good laugh together and he trains really hard. And he was telling me just before the idiot release with his latest video that he release with that, he was so manys that he got so rattled, he had actually stop. And like, you
Speaker 11 01:55:27 Know, when, when he got on his, he fucking is he's on another planet. I may mention that. And it was fucking on its head half the shit that went on then was I wasn't like, no, not, not too many people trying that shit
Speaker 5 01:55:41 Tr what's he in
Speaker 3 01:55:42 Layman terms, mate, what's the injury. What? Yeah, yeah. Just layman terms, mate. What is that ankle strain?
Speaker 21 01:55:50 Yeah. Sy assmosis is, um, a high ankle sprain, like you said before. So your natural ankle sprain is like an inversion injury and there's a ligament down the base there that goes between a bone in your foot to your fibula, but the high ankle sprains between the fibula and the tibia and the Tibs your main weightbearing bone. And there's a really strong connection, like connected tissue connection between the, the tibia and the fibula. And the fibula is just like a strep bone on the side for your muscle attachments. But as it gets down near the ankle, it becomes part of the actual ankle joint. So of the ankle joint actually separates. And it's a really heavy injury. Like if you, um, separate it really heavily, like you, can you need surgery? Sorry. I, no,
Speaker 0 01:56:33 No. I was just saying, I
Speaker 3 01:56:34 Just wanna say 85 bucks. Thanks Jack <laugh> or, or 5% of your Margie's winning. Stay up to you, buddy. He will touch you at the end if that counts for anything.
Speaker 0 01:56:46 <laugh> I just, I just knew that Trevor be horn if for ANM
Speaker 21 01:56:50 Man, I'm Horning for ankles and choirs.
Speaker 11 01:56:55 And I, I go on about
Speaker 21 01:56:55 The glutes a lot as well, had to rub Sammy's ass over there the other week. That's pretty bad actually,
Speaker 11 01:57:03 But I
Speaker 21 01:57:04 No, just
Speaker 0 01:57:05 Ignore that. That's a yellow card, yellow card. You're out. Happy I out one more of those and you're out Sammy yellow card,
Speaker 21 01:57:14 You know how those heaps are sanitizer around nowadays. I sanitize heaps after that <laugh>
Speaker 3 01:57:20 I would definitely sanitize if I had to rub Sammy's boots, for sure. You can add anything you want
Speaker 21 01:57:26 On, on that concussion side of things. So that was interesting with like, he was just telling me that stuff. And I like thinking about the things you were saying before, how we get raged as surfs, especially you CT wise. So that kinda adds the bravery side of things. Like we just go and um, I respect that. So a surf just very basic surf and I, when I can go, OK, add combos me every now and then, but, but, um, but yeah, the bravery side of things, like if we could sneak onto that, that's cool.
Speaker 11 01:57:59 Oh yeah. I forgot. I forgot the first one. Yeah.
Speaker 3 01:58:01 Well Trevor had about, he, he promised asked one question, but he banged about in there and then lost
Speaker 11 01:58:07 The case. The whole cut. You gotta get scientific. He's not gonna stop to the GetSet.
Speaker 3 01:58:11 Yeah, but mate, it, it is a good point, like tr saying that with the helmets and stuff, because, um, like micro was saying, you don't have to hit the reef or get the board in the head. Like how many times? Like all of us down here, even on like mate, a four footer down here, you like fall awkwardly on takeoff and it's a bit cold. I don't know why the water seems harder when it's colder and, and you just slap your head sideways. You that's
Speaker 11 01:58:33 The worst
Speaker 3 01:58:34 To be fair. Fuck man. Like that. So
Speaker 0 01:58:36 Four,
Speaker 11 01:58:36 You gotta get a headache too. A it's when youre young, you're not told that like yeah, if you get a headache after a head, knock it clearly can't be good. It's it can't be your head's aching like
Speaker 3 01:58:44 That many.
Speaker 11 01:58:45 But I think
Speaker 3 01:58:45 Those little ones and I'm, it's not even banging your head on the reef or it's not a 10 footer, but even a three, four foot man, you just get that little whiplash effect and, and you hit the surface of the water, just that wrong way. And, and that I mate, we've all had like hundreds of,
Speaker 11 01:59:01 For
Speaker 3 01:59:01 Sure it adds up.
Speaker 11 01:59:02 And I think it comes into the bravery thing too. It's like, you want to be brave, so you go hard. But then there was something that was so undisclosed or unknown about what it was and people are going balls to the wall. And like now it's actually kind of got a second guess you choices, but you're still trying to be as brave as possible and GOs hard, but you're still trying to think if I do hit my head here or something like that, it, it, it, especially speaking to someone that, oh, and he's been through it all and just to know, to wear the helmet, it's not gonna help completely, but it is gonna help in, in, in a way it makes a big difference. Like it's like riding a bike. Yeah.
Speaker 7 01:59:36 And that whole bravery conversations like that opens up so much interest to me. Cause it's like the eight foot day at your local slab. If you've had a head knocked day before when it was four foot and you're kinda like the, the March hour, we knew once to turn up. Cause the next day is eight foot and pumping and you know, the boys are out there. Like it's, it's more brave to kind of know that you need to take the day off and sit on the beach and watch like that to me is bravery. And that's kind of really owning.
Speaker 0 02:00:06 Thanks, Marco. I feel like I'm very brave. Damn that sense.
Speaker 3 02:00:10 Now who's the bravest man I've ever seen. <laugh>
Speaker 0 02:00:13 I'm very, very brave on
Speaker 7 02:00:16 You. That head knock you head when you were really young. Eh,
Speaker 0 02:00:19 No head knocks mate.
Speaker 11 02:00:21 Not up a tree on the shore. He
Speaker 3 02:00:25 Jack's getting, he doesn't even know where trick is. He's getting I've the I've done concert trick. Have you? No,
Speaker 0 02:00:31 I like
Speaker 3 02:00:31 Four couple
Speaker 11 02:00:32 Belts up there. More the backwash than anything on our time. Bigger waves going out than in,
Speaker 3 02:00:40 Sorry to all our Perth listeners, which
Speaker 11 02:00:42 Yeah, no. Anyway.
Speaker 3 02:00:43 80% of our follow shipment. <laugh> Hey, did you say that? Um, the beach muscles have gas available at pipe, like,
Speaker 11 02:00:52 Um, our pipe at sunset. Um, and I think they're planning to have it at Chopes and really probably gland.
Speaker 3 02:00:57 So even if you don't bring your own gas, the, the WSL is providing gas. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 11 02:01:01 I, I took one all the way to Hawaii and ended up coughing a board in the head twice. I had stitches in my head. I wasn't gonna, I couldn't really sit the helmet on my head, but I took it my head to not use it. So I probably should have had it
Speaker 3 02:01:11 All is contradictory.
Speaker 11 02:01:13 But um, no, just for them to have it there. I mean, it's, it's a hard thing to travel with. Yeah. Off the back of my backpack. I just banging around. So to haven't at the contest side, just wear it
Speaker 7 02:01:22 On the plane
Speaker 11 02:01:23 It on the, and just sleep the whole way strong over. You'd be cruising. Yeah.
Speaker 3 02:01:27 Pull the old Gath visor down on the, on the plane. Just get a good night's sleep. I just would that qualify as a COVID mask as well? Like put the
Speaker 11 02:01:37 I'm gonna try.
Speaker 0 02:01:40 I'll tell you what, if you, I dunno if anyone's seen the footage, but if you are sitting behind Mike Tyson, you probably need to be wearing a Gath helmet because what would he to he's punching on with the passengers in the well,
Speaker 5 02:01:51 He, that passenger deserves it mate.
Speaker 0 02:01:54 He did. But he should been wearing, wearing a Gath helmet. If you're a crack at Mike Tyson,
Speaker 5 02:02:01 You need a gladiator, uh, helmet for no
Speaker 0 02:02:03 Brainer.
Speaker 5 02:02:04 Yeah. Anyway.
Speaker 0 02:02:06 All right. We're firing up here, but I think these guys need to get moving down the road. So
Speaker 6 02:02:11 We gotta go, but let's do you Steve's right.
Speaker 0 02:02:14 We're not gonna do the Clive cup. We're gonna go the positive side of things with, uh, Steve a salute. No, these guys gotta go.
Speaker 15 02:02:23 Why? If someone in the crowds they'd be waiting
Speaker 0 02:02:26 Well, well
Speaker 5 02:02:27 We can keep going. The guys can leave.
Speaker 0 02:02:29 They keep going. Right. Molly, give us your Steve. Ew. Salute.
Speaker 6 02:02:34 Uh, I think mine would be, I went, I was fortunate enough to go to dinner with BT Brian Taylor, uh, exa fail player, professional commentator, you know? Yeah. Um, and I just think the way he tells stories and like in is intrigued in what you say. And I think he's just all around legends. So that would be my Steve of the night.
Speaker 11 02:02:55 He's
Speaker 5 02:02:55 A great footy. Commenter your
Speaker 0 02:02:56 BT. Yeah,
Speaker 6 02:02:57 Random one. But
Speaker 0 02:02:59 I was expecting that.
Speaker 6 02:03:01 Yeah. To
Speaker 0 02:03:01 Bet. Yeah. Good on you micro.
Speaker 7 02:03:05 Um, probably this is a bit random too, but Bria Hennessy's dad, he's like got some severe case of ad or something, but <laugh>, he's, I'm here coaching his daughter and he texts me every morning. Gonna play golf. Let's play golf. And if I knocked back golf, he's like, let's go fishing. Let's go fishing. So it's like, I just love him. He's I play golf with him today at mugs. And um, we got a quick nine in and yeah, he's just, just high on life. I love it. It kind of makes me just throw out and do more shit.
Speaker 5 02:03:35 He's not Hennessy from Hennessy's cognac by his.
Speaker 7 02:03:38 He could be. Yeah,
Speaker 11 02:03:40 I dunno
Speaker 0 02:03:41 You on the cognac. <laugh> all right. Jacko baker. Who is your Steve Irman salute.
Speaker 23 02:03:46 Steve. I salute, um, have to be me misses happy
Speaker 11 02:03:52 Wife. Happy not He's
Speaker 6 02:04:01 A sweet boy
Speaker 11 02:04:03 To, to have put up with me for, she's
Speaker 7 02:04:06 Not gonna listen to this thing, mate. Don't
Speaker 11 02:04:07 <laugh> I know, but honestly, mate, she'll now I always, I'll never give her enough rep and to put up with me and travel with me and to be able to, I mean, probably the biggest one is that year when co came around, didn't have a job. She pretty much just funded me to like, she went to work, to fund what I do so that, that Emily, and, um, to bring her here, I've been able to bring her along and nah, not yet <laugh> you better? But um, if he wins to Margie, bring her here and repay her for being hard to be in my corner. And I mean, I don't really know too many people that would back their boyfriend to go do what they love around the world and work an extra job to do that. Like, and now we get to reap the benefits. It's pretty cool. It's pretty cool. So
Speaker 0 02:04:51 Absolutely love that sort of thing. Uhone
Speaker 5 02:04:55 I've two to Steve Irwin
Speaker 0 02:04:57 Go mate
Speaker 5 02:04:59 To the, To the support crew, uh, to Molly and Jack. I mean, professionally personally, it's, it's, it's such a great thing to have and uh, that's my Steve Irwin to micro and Jack, you spoke about your partner, so it must be great to have her support. Yeah. Mate, tell me if I'm wrong, but I did see something Instagram that she travels with a fry pan. Is that right?
Speaker 11 02:05:23 Yeah, really? Yeah. She's she's she's committed. She's got this one fry pan that she got for Christmas, like 300 fry pan and must
Speaker 5 02:05:30 Be bloody good.
Speaker 11 02:05:31 She's a good cook.
Speaker 5 02:05:32 What's what's in the fry pan tonight, mate?
Speaker 11 02:05:34 Uh, I don't think there's anything in the fry pan tonight a bit late, but um, no, she, um, she's a, she's a very good cook. Yeah, I'm in I'm cooked. No, that's why I said it before the truck hit meself outta trouble. Nah, but yeah, she travels a fry pan and yeah, a bit of a character. It's pretty classic.
Speaker 3 02:05:54 What's not the fry. I'm interested. You is a cast.
Speaker 11 02:05:57 I don't know. All I know is the brand's backer route. It's a good one, man. Oh yeah. Backer nonstick. No, no oil need it. And you can Chuck, whatever you want in
Speaker 3 02:06:04 There. Right. I like it. That's epic. Uh, my Steve Irwin. Oh, come on mate. Fuck. <laugh> know me better than that one now. No. Okay. Uh, mate, Ja Andre.
Speaker 11 02:06:17 Yes. Ja
Speaker 3 02:06:20 Ridiculously patriotic. And I love to just by Brazilians for the sake of him being Brazilian without knowing him, cuz I just want Aussies to beat him all the time. Um, how to surf at my favorite little spot yesterday, we'll call it, uh, south rock <laugh> and uh, they went out there early. I, I was hoping it was gonna be on and um, it was sort of on, it was, it was pretty good, but uh, you know, like four to six foot and a bit windy, offshore and standard issue, but it was pretty good. And um, Atallo and Ja were out there, um, getting amongst the early. So it was good to see them out there having a crack on their fucking 21 liter boards while I was on the 49 liter and fucking later and, and paddling in a couple of windy ones that's
Speaker 3 02:07:06 Of us out there and you know, Tyler was, was doing his thing and, and I'd heard, you know, that Jas like this really well loved guy on tour. And he was sitting out the back, um, waiting for some good ones and uh, waiting for the big ones and which is my to all. And I was sitting out there waiting, having a bit of a chat to him. And I asked him the, the, the same question that, that Sammy asked you guys actually like, oh, how's how, what, you know, what, what's your prep going into? Margie's like, we're in the wine region. Are you going out, you going out to the restaurant, having a glass of red and a steak after this surf or you just regimented and Jasmine's like, ah, you know, I'm not so regimented, I'm sort of at the end or he didn't really say him at the end, but he sort of gave that, oh, I'm not so much now, but you know, and he goes, oh, but a talo man.
Speaker 3 02:07:51 He's like fucking really focused. And, and this and that. And I'm like, oh, is that right? And he's like, yeah, he doesn't drink at all. And I'm like, oh really at all. And he's like, no, it doesn't drink at all. It has to be a really special occasion for a tall to drink. And then Ja goes and yeah, leading up to the comp, he actually hasn't eaten at all for three days. He's fasting. And I was like, fuck, no way. And he's like, yeah, man, hasn't fucking eaten anything free day fast. He's gonna go into the comp like fasting. And I'm like, fuck, that's fucking crazy. And he's like, yeah, no, I'm just fucking with you man. And I'm
Speaker 4 02:08:22 Like, good. I was like,
Speaker 3 02:08:27 Mate, I, you know, these Brazos are like these foreign dudes to me and like Skys these crazy doing squats all the time and Instagram
Speaker 4 02:08:34 And that
Speaker 3 02:08:35 See's chat out the back just going, yeah. He hasn't even eaten for three. And I'm like,
Speaker 4 02:08:39 Fuck, is that right? Is that what you gotta do to do that?
Speaker 3 02:08:41 Yeah, no, he fucked me over. So I'm nominating, uh, JS and Andre for just stitching me up out the back of me.
Speaker 0 02:08:49 That is so good. That may be one of your finest. Uh, Steve, I salutes there. All right. So we're gonna wrap this up, but I'm gonna give my Steven a SLT to the three people in front of us, such a pleasure having you guys on barrel surf podcast And these bloody legends who are in the background with USS whole bunch of legends out there. Well, yeah, probably couldn't no, Thank you so much guys. In the background, we're gonna have a barbecue, um, shortly and a couple more beers, but Jackson baker, Molly pick Glen micro hall. Thank you so much for joining us on barer podcast. It has been such a damn pleasure. Thanks
Speaker 4 02:09:30 So much for traveling us. Thank you.
Speaker 0 02:09:33 Good luck in the comp coming up. I know you guys, uh, don't know at it, but yeah, sure guys gonna
Speaker 3 02:09:39 Need it. And mate, <laugh> we? No, cause mate, that's my last words is everyone out there? You know, we got a lot of wa uh, listeners, cuz we're a, you know, heavily biased wa podcast. Even though we have listeners, uh, all around Australia and all around the world, um, we Wa mate Jacko, baker, Molly pick their, their lung. Sorry.
Speaker 4 02:10:03 <laugh> one pickle mate. Stick pickle, pickles.
Speaker 3 02:10:12 Yeah. Well, you know, pickled pickle. Um, it's
Speaker 4 02:10:17 We're in the same right now. That's actually your nickname pickles. Is it?
Speaker 3 02:10:21 I heard name was Jacko bakery. Is there anything to that?
Speaker 4 02:10:25 A lot on the bakery. <laugh> who, doesn't why I'm
Speaker 3 02:10:30 Seriously Australian charges on the CT. Fucking go Molly, go Jacko. I hope you haver in for
Speaker 1 02:11:36 It. And.
