Episode 127 - It's the WSL Finals Wrap

Episode 127 - It's the WSL Finals Wrap
Barrelled Surf Podcast
Episode 127 - It's the WSL Finals Wrap

Sep 22 2023 | 01:36:55

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Episode 127 • September 22, 2023 • 01:36:55

Hosted By

Adam Kennedy Andrew Bromley Tyron Youlden

Show Notes

Trestles is not ideal for the WSL Finals, on that we can all agree, no?

Even so, it was a pretty entertaining day, especially with Ethan Ewing going absolute ham and nearly taking the title from small wave wizard Felipe Toledo.

The Boys break it down and give their Surfer of the Year, as well as nominations for the Clive Palmer Cup and the Steve Irwin Salute.

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Episode Transcript

[00:00:00] Speaker A: G'day, everybody. Welcome to Barreled serve Podcast. We have our 2023 Wazzle finals wrap coming up for you shortly. But I did want to make mention of the schedule for 2024, which has just been released this morning. I'll tell you what, JBay off the schedule is a massive kick in the guts as far as I'm concerned. It's just about my favorite event, but there you go, it's not on there. Next year. Having cloud break is obviously great, but yeah, Jay Bay's gone and unfortunately, they are going back to Trestles again for the finals. What are you thinking? Two to three foot slop for the finals? It just doesn't make sense. Come on, WSL, you got to sort that out and sort it out quick. Anyway, it is what it is for now, so enjoy the wrap up that we did. And as usual, Barrel Surf Podcast is brought to you by cheeky Monkey Brewing Forester Estate wines, athletic greens down South, Physio, Sharkey's, Wetsuits and Dunbay home loans. Now it's on with the show. Barreled surf podcast. [00:00:58] Speaker B: Barreled surf podcast. Barreled surf podcast. [00:01:01] Speaker C: Barrel surf podcast. [00:01:02] Speaker D: Barrel surf podcast. [00:01:03] Speaker C: Yeehawk. [00:01:15] Speaker A: All right, everybody. Welcome back to Barrel Surf Podcast. It is a beautiful autumn spring. Spring, isn't it? [00:01:21] Speaker D: Yeah, spring is in the air. [00:01:23] Speaker A: Spring is in the air. Everywhere I look around. Yes, we are back in the ShedQuarters and it is lovely day. Good to have you here with us. And we got T bone to my right. G'day, T bone. [00:01:35] Speaker D: G'day nemo. Just been packing my boards, figuring out what little crafts are going to take to indo with me. So it's a good feeling, very good feeling. [00:01:45] Speaker B: Little bit of September sessions. [00:01:46] Speaker D: T Bone yeah, there's a bit of swell too. There's a bit of swell up there now. I was actually just watching the QS 5000 at NIAS getting fizzed up. [00:01:55] Speaker B: Is that on today? [00:01:56] Speaker D: Yeah, it's been on the last five days. [00:01:58] Speaker B: Is it bombing there today? [00:02:00] Speaker D: No, little bit unsure, but super. whackable. Still some clean faces, but not really tubing, but still a lot of fun. [00:02:08] Speaker B: Was it big in any of the last couple? [00:02:11] Speaker D: No, I don't think the swell got up. That sort of part of indo. [00:02:17] Speaker E: Yeah, right. [00:02:17] Speaker A: I saw some vision of Willow Hardy, I think looked kind of overhead, but not massive, but reasonably, but onshore. [00:02:26] Speaker D: Yeah, I think the swell was sort of more down the Bali end, and I heard it was and it was a pretty eight to ten foot big swell. Maybe twelve to 15 URLs, really. [00:02:38] Speaker B: For those that don't know, the swell was pretty big in the West Australia here, in the last couple of days, it was like almost 6 meters or something. So you'd think that would usually get into NIAS, but direction can be, like, you say, a bit of a part of it. [00:02:51] Speaker D: Yeah, it looked like it was really. [00:02:53] Speaker A: South, but still heading up there. [00:02:55] Speaker D: Didn't quite fan up. [00:02:56] Speaker A: And of course, to my left, the current single fin champion from the River Classic Summer to the Adam Kennedy boys. [00:03:06] Speaker B: Yep, good to be back in the shed quarters in our natural habitats. Yeah, the sun is shining Saturday afternoon and, yeah, we thought we'd come in and get a bit of froth about the WSL finals that's just gone down. [00:03:22] Speaker A: Never mind the wazle. T bone's all about the AFL. He's jumped on the blue bag of. [00:03:33] Speaker B: Mean. [00:03:33] Speaker D: Who'd they play again? [00:03:34] Speaker B: Fuck us. [00:03:36] Speaker A: Do you know what suck at? Suck at melbourne. [00:03:38] Speaker B: Melbourne. [00:03:38] Speaker D: Bunch of Melbourne probably deserve to win. [00:03:40] Speaker A: Mate, that was a fair smothering attempt from Maynard. I mean, everyone hates Collingwood, but fucking hell. All he was trying to do was smother the ball and he knocked old mate out. Melbourne were crying about suspended for fucking 20. [00:03:55] Speaker D: But I must say, Namu, you've played footy. Like when you're midair going for a smother. He could have backed off in the air. He didn't. He went straight through him and backed. [00:04:04] Speaker B: Off in the air. Once you're in the air. [00:04:08] Speaker A: He'S a footy player, mate, not a gymnast. What do you want him to do? [00:04:11] Speaker D: Do a fucking he meant to knock him out. No, he's lucky he didn't get any weeks too. [00:04:17] Speaker E: Fuck off. [00:04:18] Speaker A: It's footy, mate. [00:04:19] Speaker B: Fair bump. Play on. [00:04:20] Speaker E: Come on. [00:04:21] Speaker D: Ended his footy career, though. Concussion ended his career. [00:04:25] Speaker A: He's had a history of concussion. You shouldn't be out there. Full stop. That's on Melbourne, not on Maynard. [00:04:31] Speaker B: I didn't watch the game controversy to. [00:04:33] Speaker A: Start a Barrel Seth podcast anyway. [00:04:35] Speaker B: I was too busy eating Burger Tron burgers downtown in Dunsborough Friday night. Style with the family. He gave me a free chips. Bloody legend. Burger Tron. [00:04:43] Speaker A: Shout out. Burger Tron. Timmy, how are you? Good burgers. [00:04:48] Speaker E: Yeah, good burgers. [00:04:49] Speaker A: So, tell you what, boys. Tell you what, we had a massive, massive Saturday night last week. There was also the W Cell finals as well. Just joking. We had the quiz night. Duns for primary school. Took the chocolates home. [00:05:06] Speaker E: You beauty. [00:05:07] Speaker B: Yeah. And then just rolled straight. He thought, I'm on a heater here, I'll just stay up all night, mate. [00:05:13] Speaker A: Straight into the WSL finals and yeah, pretty entertaining. [00:05:19] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:05:19] Speaker D: Can we get straight into the Clive Palmers about that? [00:05:22] Speaker B: Well, yeah, well, I mean, you're just nominating trestles for Clive. [00:05:25] Speaker D: No, I just reckon they shot their load too early. [00:05:28] Speaker A: Shot their load? [00:05:29] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:05:29] Speaker D: I think they should have given it a few days, because I did see some footage a couple of days. Two days after. [00:05:35] Speaker B: Yeah, even the day after, I heard. [00:05:38] Speaker D: And it was bigger pumping, fucking better quality surf. [00:05:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:45] Speaker D: They just had this agenda just to run it on that bloody day, no matter what. [00:05:49] Speaker A: Yeah. They didn't want to do it on Sunday because the NFL was on opening day of the National Football League, and they just went, Nut, we're going, we're doing it. This fucking thing cost us too much. Money already this year. [00:06:03] Speaker B: I know. So, to be fair, the waves were okay for, like, the first 80% of it, and then it just absolutely turned to dog shit for the final. Yeah. Heavy. Yeah, it was pretty good. I mean, even the first heat of Ethan Ewing and Phil Toledo was still pretty good. Waves. [00:06:26] Speaker A: Look at this wave. If those waves are in front of you, be frothing super fun. But, yeah, let's start with the start. Molly, our Molly taking a dive. And that was a hard not taking a dive, but, yeah, going down, that. [00:06:39] Speaker D: Was a slow heat. I thought that was pretty yeah, that was tough. [00:06:45] Speaker A: Little bit of morning sickness on it. And Molly obviously got dusted. [00:06:48] Speaker D: She did. [00:06:49] Speaker A: And then I don't know, Azzie, you're. [00:06:52] Speaker D: Just quickly, though, one thing about Molly, she's been the headquarters, obviously, we know she got knocked off tour, had to grind back, and now she made the final five. So it's a pretty damn good comeback. [00:07:04] Speaker B: Finished number five in the world after getting knocked off the year before. [00:07:08] Speaker D: It's an early Steve Irwin for Molly. [00:07:10] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:07:11] Speaker B: And, mate, it's the start of what's the old footy saying since we started with footy. [00:07:17] Speaker A: Well done, Molly. [00:07:19] Speaker B: No, with the premiership, you got to lose one to win one. Yes, it's always hard losing one, but she's got a taste of the finals now and won't go back in next time as a clean skin in the finals format. So that's got to be good for experience. Young enough to be there plenty of times so that's he in the future. [00:07:42] Speaker D: I'll put this to you if you're in Carissa's corner, she's lost two GFS. Now, what advice would you give her for next year boycott? [00:07:52] Speaker A: Join the slab. [00:07:55] Speaker B: No one's copy. And, mate, the one that she did win, she only won because Tatiana fell off on one, her very last turn. If she'd have rode out of that turn, she would have lost three from three. It was like a bee's dick in it, man. [00:08:10] Speaker A: Tatiana must be kicking herself now, just going, Fuck, I missed my opportunity to yeah, 100%. [00:08:15] Speaker D: She make the final five. [00:08:16] Speaker E: No. [00:08:17] Speaker B: So it was literally one turn away from losing all three, for chris. And she finished first every single one of those years. All three years. She finished first after the normal season. Pretty brutal, man. [00:08:30] Speaker A: Interesting stat that I saw just in the last day or two was that on the old format, we have two yep. Tyler Wright actually finished first after the regular. [00:08:42] Speaker B: Yep. [00:08:43] Speaker A: So, yeah, if it was the old format, then Tyler would have won the world title on that basis. That's pre before they had the yeah. And so when there was two throwaways, there's only one throwaway now. [00:08:54] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:08:55] Speaker B: And another stat on the girls that I was reading about yesterday was that if it hadn't had the finals format, then Carissa would have possibly won two more world titles. And Steph would have had one less and they'd both be on. [00:09:11] Speaker A: Well, yeah, yeah. [00:09:13] Speaker B: But I mean, obviously with your Tyler Stat there, that sort of throws a catamunk's pigeons as well. But it's all hearsay, isn't it? Because the history books won't record it that way. [00:09:22] Speaker A: No, the history books will be uncommon. Carissa, she should be a couple more in the books, really. [00:09:27] Speaker B: It's pretty hectic, that final with Carissa and Caroline Marks like, mate, she just looked terrible, really. Carissa, she just couldn't find the right waves. [00:09:40] Speaker A: Jumpy Scatty well, I just thought that. [00:09:44] Speaker B: All she was doing was cutbacks. She couldn't find a vertical wave, she couldn't get vertical and then Caroline Marks was getting the vertical ones. And just fair play to Caroline Marks, she was absolutely teeing off on those things on that backhand. Carolupo yeah, the old Ockie swing bags were just in full pendulum, just ripping the lid off it, mate, like she was surfing. So like, I was watching, you know, when the winds are light. [00:10:09] Speaker D: She's got some power in those turns, doesn't she? [00:10:12] Speaker B: Definitely, you know when the winds are light and crew do really big sprays when it's that lighter wind, it doesn't evaporate with the stronger wind. Some of the sprays Caroline would do her, man they were going out of. [00:10:23] Speaker D: The screen rooster tails. [00:10:24] Speaker B: Yeah, they were definitely going out of. [00:10:26] Speaker A: Shot of they were reporting spray hitting the International Space Station. [00:10:30] Speaker D: I reckon Trestle's favours a backhand surfer and I think it just favored Caroline all day. [00:10:35] Speaker B: Well, she was just vertical all the way through and then Carissa was just horizontal, mate, like literally everyone. [00:10:43] Speaker A: Do you think that Caroline Martz? I reckon Carissa Moore can be a little bit guilty of that, though. Sort of lateral surfing. [00:10:52] Speaker D: That's just my Caroline. [00:10:54] Speaker A: Carissa just did the same thing. [00:10:56] Speaker D: Why didn't wrist try go to the air? She has got. [00:11:01] Speaker B: It was clutching at straws right near the end. She tried to go to the air, I think, in the second heat. Played a yeah she but it just was too little too late. But yeah, caroline Marks, Chris Amore, both the same initials there. Just getting a bit tongue twisted for the boys in the chair. I've only had one cheeky monkey and we can't get it out, but at least we're not the interviewer in the water. What was it, Kaipo? [00:11:25] Speaker A: Remember at Margaret River when he called Jack Robbo? John yeah. John Florence. You're the winner of the Jack Robbo, mate. [00:11:35] Speaker B: We're allowed to we're just amateurs in the shed, but that was a bit rough. [00:11:39] Speaker A: Tell me, adds Kennedy, you're obviously we're all Jack Robbo fans here, but you're the biggest one. What happened to Jack Robbo? [00:11:46] Speaker B: I don't know what happened to Jack Robbo, in all honesty. I guess to start with, he only just made it into the five after a roller coaster year. Maybe that had something to do with it. I don't know if injuries are still there a little bit. [00:12:01] Speaker D: Well, he won. [00:12:02] Speaker E: Tahiti. [00:12:02] Speaker D: He was going into Truth was on a major high. [00:12:04] Speaker B: Yeah, but tahiti. Yeah, I know. Mentally, I don't know, maybe three weeks away. [00:12:10] Speaker A: Three weeks ago, though, whatever it was, it's a fair amount of time to sort of come back to Earth. And your little medial that you've done in your knee is starting to sort of ping a bit and you're starting to doubt yourself. [00:12:21] Speaker B: Who knows? [00:12:22] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:12:23] Speaker B: I don't know what happened. He just didn't string it together. Whether it was just, I mean, you could say the pressure, but he usually deals with pressure so well, the waves just wasn't informed. The waves were, like you said earlier, early in the day, that was a bit wonky and it wasn't really great. [00:12:43] Speaker D: He didn't get the opportunities. And Jiao Cianca, he was whizzing his hands around and just getting a few extra points there. He just looked like he had a little bit more energy than Jack. [00:12:56] Speaker A: Yeah, I think that's exactly the thing. Jao Cianca did look good, but then. [00:13:00] Speaker B: Thought, yeah, Jack was looking a little bit flat, wasn't he? Who knows? Yeah, I'm not sure whether we'll find out the answer to that one, but he definitely wasn't on song, was he? And no, mate, I woke up at about 1230. I went to bed and woke up at 1230, right in the middle of that Jack Robo heat. And, mate, I tell you what, it really took the wind out of my sails, because if he'd have won ever, mate, if he'd have won, there's no way I was going to bed. But seeing him lose, I just went on a bit of a routine of sort of sleep for a bit, wake up, watch a bit, sleep for a bit, wake up. Whereas I know some crew stayed up the whole way through and they were just absolutely ruined for about a day and a half after such a terrible time. [00:13:45] Speaker A: I was flatter than a pancake. After Jack Robbo losing and I lost a fair bit of interest. I did start and watch one or two of Ethan Ewings. [00:13:54] Speaker B: Yeah, well, he definitely perked Howie shit. [00:14:01] Speaker A: That one turn of his that he did against I think it was against Joe. Honestly, if Jack had gone through that heat, there's no way it would have beat Ethan. Ethan was fucking flaring. Some of the most incredible rail surfing I've seen since John John Florence at Maggie's in 2018. [00:14:19] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:14:20] Speaker D: No one can touch him. No one in the world can touch him. [00:14:23] Speaker B: That definitely got me excited again at 230 in the morning. [00:14:28] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:14:29] Speaker B: Crazy, crazy rail game, wasn't it? It was so good to watch, but you got to wonder about the format and surfing twice before he got into the final. He got sort of three or four waves each time and then Phil comes on and it's a whole new type of surfing. You got to wonder does that play into the judge's mind a bit? They're like, okay, we've already seen twelve. [00:14:54] Speaker A: Waves, fatigue comes into it. Same, not same. [00:14:59] Speaker D: Well, the waves didn't work out at the end for Ethan anyway, I don't think. [00:15:02] Speaker B: No, they didn't. [00:15:04] Speaker D: You look at Steph last year, she surfed from fifth and was doing the same dynamic surfing. [00:15:11] Speaker A: She was mixing it up a bit last year, though, she's doing those what do you call them, those, I don't know, the ones that Josh Kerr does when he sort of flips his club sandwich. Club sandwich doing those and just sort of mixing up a bit. [00:15:23] Speaker B: Well, I mean, Ethan was trying to put little different fin waft slides, bits on the end and that, and mate, I'm sure we all agree we could have watched that a hundred waves in a row and not got it was just so critical and smooth. But he broke his back, for God's sake. Yeah, it's unbelievable, isn't it? Three weeks before how does that even work? [00:15:45] Speaker D: I thought Griffin looked like even though you look at the score against him and Ethan Griffin still got 15.96, ethan beat him with a 17.10. I just thought Griffin looked like he had more to offer, but was just couldn't stick it. I don't know, I just thought I was expecting more from him to really match it with the Ethan. And I actually thought he was going to go through Ethan, actually. [00:16:08] Speaker A: But did he go to the air, Griffin? [00:16:12] Speaker D: I think he tried, but it's just his turns. [00:16:15] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:16:15] Speaker D: Didn't I know he can surf better. [00:16:17] Speaker A: But he does not have the rail going, Ethan Ewan's going. [00:16:20] Speaker D: No, but being a local from Trestles, I just thought he could have been more I actually thought he was a dark horse to actually win the lot. But whether the local home crowd and the pressure and maybe all got a bit too much for him. But he came up against Ethan Ewan. [00:16:38] Speaker B: In just unbelievable form. So it was always a hard pretty impressive by EE. And then, mate, the first heat of the final with EE and Toledo, I mean, that was a fucking mental. [00:16:51] Speaker A: They both got 17 points in that. [00:16:52] Speaker B: Yeah, something like that. It was touch and go. You could have gone either way on that one, but after watching how good EE was, and then when Toledo came on, mate, he just looks fucking unbelievable in those. [00:17:08] Speaker A: Mate, he was just switched on from the very go, wasn't he? [00:17:11] Speaker B: Just straight up, like all that pressure, waiting all day, watching everyone surf and come out in his first wave and just absolutely tore it to pieces without any sort of second guessing. And then he has that like he's faster, obviously. He's got more trickery and it just made it stood out and it was like, holy shit, this is going to be really hard, and it could have gone either way, and it was like. [00:17:35] Speaker D: Well, that first seat was only 0.7 of a difference in heat school. [00:17:40] Speaker B: That's what I mean. If the judges hadn't seen Ethan already that day, could they have given a couple of his waves another .5? They could have just been that little bit more excited. They're only human, they've already seen. [00:17:53] Speaker A: Very good point. [00:17:54] Speaker D: But Adsy, Phil's highest scoring wave for that final was a 9.0 and Ethan scored a 9.0 against Jow, so Philippe didn't score any higher than Ethan. If you look at the best scoring. [00:18:12] Speaker B: They might have given Ethan an eight and eight five. [00:18:15] Speaker A: Read just the scale, though, Freight, and. [00:18:17] Speaker B: Then they could have on the final, they could have looked at if they hadn't seen it, they might have gone, that was a 9.2 instead of an 8.5. And like you say, it was a 0.7 in it. And then if you put that over two waves, then who knows, man? But just saying, it's just interesting to think, even me watching it and being so patriotic and appreciating how good EE was surfing when Toledo came on, it was like new mates, new anything that's new, it's like, oh, it just gets your attention. [00:18:47] Speaker A: Was electrifying, there's no doubt about that. [00:18:49] Speaker D: So, Nami, I'll ask you this, mate, if we run at Trestles the next five years, how many world titles is Philip going to win? [00:18:56] Speaker A: He's going to win two now, he's going to win. I don't give a fuck, mate. If they keep doing it Trestles, I'm switching off. I just found that. Yeah, three years in a row. What are they mean? [00:19:08] Speaker B: Well, the contracts ended, right, with Rip Curl in the finals. [00:19:11] Speaker E: Five. [00:19:11] Speaker B: Logan's gone. Surely, mate, Carissa is surely going to voice some opinion to know john. John. That's right. [00:19:24] Speaker D: Are they going to change the tool? They're going to change the schedule again, do you think? [00:19:29] Speaker B: I reckon they will have no idea what's going to come out. Have they even got a new CEO yet? [00:19:33] Speaker A: No, but I think the schedule for next year comes out in a week or two, so that'll be interesting to see what that is. [00:19:40] Speaker D: I hope the pool is off the schedule. It's got to be. And where do you run a finals in September? [00:19:47] Speaker B: Where do you run it? [00:19:48] Speaker A: You don't run in September, you run it in fucking December at Pipeline. [00:19:52] Speaker D: But do we need another change, though? [00:19:54] Speaker B: Well, yeah, we do want to change. [00:19:56] Speaker A: We are going to go into a bit of what we think for next year shortly. Just getting back to but to be. [00:20:05] Speaker B: Fair, before we wrap that up, I mean, Phil won. At the end of the day, that second heat waves went to absolute dog shit. I woke up and turned it on and went, what the fuck has happened to the waves? And as soon as the waves went like that, it was like, it's all over. And it was just a huge anticlimax to what was really a day of pretty exciting surfing at the risk of going bucking the trend. And I don't want trestles either, but it was exciting. I mean, there was good surfing. It was exciting. [00:20:33] Speaker A: I was absolutely frothing for the final. [00:20:34] Speaker B: Day and then that last heat was just terrible. And hey, that's the ocean. It rarely does it pump. [00:20:43] Speaker D: They had the days. They had the days to run the comp. That's what I was just tripping. [00:20:48] Speaker B: Why don't we wait for the best. [00:20:50] Speaker D: Waves in the event window? [00:20:51] Speaker A: Why not do it over two days? [00:20:52] Speaker E: Exactly. [00:20:53] Speaker B: I was about to say, why don't you get through the first two rounds? And then that would have helped with the judging of seeing the same surfer the whole way through, too. You come back, you've had a sleep, you're all fresh, fresh again. [00:21:07] Speaker A: The whole point of it is that if surfer five has to surf four heats before the three heats before the final, he's fatigued. So the surfer that finishes first has got to have that advantage. But if it means surfing in much. [00:21:22] Speaker D: Better ways yeah, but, you know, the Wazle's got an underlying agenda to try and make this a mainstream sport, which they're trying, but it will never be a mainstream sport. And that's probably why they were so dead set on running on Saturday. [00:21:35] Speaker A: Do you know why surfers give a fuck so much about the WSL and pro surfing and all that? Because of a surfers. [00:21:41] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:21:41] Speaker A: Nobody else gives a fuck about pro surfing. [00:21:44] Speaker B: They give a fuck about the Eddie. [00:21:47] Speaker A: Big wave surfing if it manages to. [00:21:50] Speaker B: Pop up randomly on their screen. But we've sort of talked about that. [00:21:54] Speaker A: So W, cell, just stay in your fucking lane, mate. [00:21:56] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:21:56] Speaker A: Midwest America and all the rest of it, they don't give a shit about surfing. They really don't. They never will. No, even with wave pools, populating the place, they're not going to give a shit. [00:22:05] Speaker B: It's just no, because they want to appreciate the majestics of a raw, unpredictable ocean, which is what we appreciate when we watch someone at Pop or something like that. And we understand how they've managed to harness the energy and pick out the diamonds in the rough and get through like that. We know that's a skill. It's not just luck, but it's also. [00:22:26] Speaker A: 80% of the time people just sitting there doing fuck all. [00:22:28] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:22:29] Speaker A: Nobody who doesn't surf is going to be interested in that shit. [00:22:33] Speaker D: A question for you boys. Do you think the best five surfers, male and female, finished in the top five? [00:22:40] Speaker A: Absolutely not. [00:22:41] Speaker D: Well, who didn't finish in the men's? Namu? [00:22:45] Speaker A: One. Gabrielle Medana? One. John Florence. [00:22:47] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:22:47] Speaker B: What about women kick out, though, to make them fit? [00:22:52] Speaker A: Joe Schanker and sorry, no Jack robbo, you gone. [00:22:58] Speaker D: Here we go. [00:22:59] Speaker B: Unplug Mike. Get the gloves out. [00:23:03] Speaker D: You kidding me. I thought he might have picked Griff. [00:23:04] Speaker B: Myself, but fucking kidding me? No, he was fucking dominating in the gold. Jersey until he got injured. [00:23:12] Speaker D: Yeah, it's a hard one. It's a hard one to pick if you take off the patriotic cap. [00:23:17] Speaker A: Yeah, we do need to remember that John John and Gabriel Medina were at chokes and they had the chance to take it. And Jack Robbo did. [00:23:26] Speaker E: Exactly. [00:23:27] Speaker B: Yeah, it's hard. [00:23:29] Speaker A: Hats off to Jao Cianca, but certainly Gabby or John John are probably more deserving at this point to be in the top five. [00:23:35] Speaker B: By the same token, he downed our man, so he won a heat. So I guess he has the right to be there, doesn't he? [00:23:42] Speaker A: Fourth in the world. They can't take that away. [00:23:43] Speaker B: You know what know, it's surely something to do with Team Brazil. Just fucking jack robbo over. He thinks they're all his mates, but maybe they stitched him up somehow. [00:23:52] Speaker A: What's his coach called, has he? [00:23:54] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:23:54] Speaker A: No, I'm not saying leandro, mate. Leandro Dora. [00:23:59] Speaker D: You know, surfers that you look at Jordy. I just don't think Jordy's ever going. [00:24:04] Speaker B: To Jordy's time's gone. [00:24:05] Speaker D: Pull together a fucking good year. [00:24:07] Speaker A: No, that was sipping from the sweet, sweet pro surfing teeth and he's never going to go any further than he is now. [00:24:16] Speaker D: So what about add to your top five? You reckon the top five women were pretty spot on, or do you think. [00:24:22] Speaker B: Well, obviously Steph wasn't there, but Steph can be pretty hit and miss these days, can't she? Yeah, I liked the fact that Molly and Caitlin were in there as part of the new charge. Caroline was obviously meant to be there because she won the yeah. And then Tyler and Chris are from the old school. I think it's pretty spot on, really. [00:24:42] Speaker D: It was pretty good. [00:24:43] Speaker B: How do you fit Stephanie? I don't, mate. Yeah, it's a hard one. She could have shown. [00:24:50] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I guess I've got eight world titles. I'm out off selling into the sunset from here. [00:24:56] Speaker E: Yeah, maybe. [00:24:57] Speaker D: What about Taddy doing? [00:24:58] Speaker E: Taddy? [00:24:59] Speaker B: Taddy should have well, I don't think she had the right to replace anyone that was there this year, unless know, literally went out and earned it. I wouldn't say, oh, I feel like she's hard done by missing out because she just wasn't there. Whereas Steph, you could say that a little bit, because she's the only person ever to surf from fifth into a win, so she could have easily have won again. [00:25:21] Speaker A: But I actually really like tuddy. I think she's ballsy and, yeah, it's a shame that she didn't get up this year, but his style is not obviously the prettiest on the eye, but fuck, she's powerful, does not mind having a crack. So go ahead, Tatty, come on back. Yeah, we'll see you next year. No, she'll be back around, no doubt. [00:25:42] Speaker D: I guess there's a heap of girls in the Challenger series. Up the top. You got Sally Fitzgibbons, Isabella Nichols, India Robinson Bronte. So if they finished a year strong, we could have a few more aussies in this et, which would be good. [00:25:58] Speaker A: Yeah, definitely will. [00:25:59] Speaker B: There's never been a lack of aussies in the women's surfing arena, though. [00:26:03] Speaker D: Need to have more. [00:26:04] Speaker B: Yeah, well, more is always good. I feel like it's the men's where we need to make up a few more numbers. We got better last couple of years. We definitely had a bit of a flat run there for a while. [00:26:12] Speaker A: We had two in the top five. [00:26:13] Speaker B: Yeah, that's pretty good. [00:26:14] Speaker A: Nothing wrong with that. Mean second in the world. Ethan Ewing with the broken back, nearly put off one of the best comebacks in the history of sports. [00:26:23] Speaker B: Any sport. [00:26:24] Speaker A: Yeah, any sport. [00:26:25] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. I don't know. Where would you have the finals next year? Do we have the finals, mate, I don't mind the finals. [00:26:35] Speaker A: All right, let's do sick or flick. We're going to talk about the finals as a concept. Is it sick or should it get the flick? T Bone? [00:26:49] Speaker B: Well. [00:26:51] Speaker D: I actually asked Matt George this the other day, and I even actually think I even heard Kelly even say this before as well. Have the finals. Because let me go back a second. When I asked Matt, what do you think of the final five? [00:27:08] Speaker A: You knew, mate, Matt George, new mate. [00:27:10] Speaker D: Matt George, look out for that. He said that he should run like a cup, like a PGA tournament, like a Masters, like four times a year, where you give points to someone who dominates in four events, but then still run the world title, have something similar like they do in golf, but have it in surfing. [00:27:35] Speaker B: Yeah, that's interesting, because I was just thinking just then when you asked that, when T Bone was giving his answer, I was thinking, well, what's my answer? And I was thinking maybe you could do something where you go one at Pipe and then one at, say, El Salvador or wherever it's some sort of rippable wave and then one in the big barreling wave and make it a two stop venue, which is sort of almost what you're talking about. Like, make it a mini tour, maybe drop the main tour from you got. [00:28:05] Speaker A: Your usual tour, but you got your majors, right? [00:28:07] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:28:07] Speaker D: Have your major events maybe us open. [00:28:10] Speaker A: USPGA. US masters and the British Open. [00:28:13] Speaker B: In the best ways. [00:28:14] Speaker D: In the best ways with high consequences. [00:28:17] Speaker B: So, say if it was the normal tour with, say, ten stops or whatever, or nine stops, drop that back to seven, and then the top five go into two comps to hopefully Pipe as one and Macaronis as the other and have a two day thing. But I know that detracts from what the WSL was trying to achieve was that finals day excitement, atmosphere, tune in, blah, blah, blah. [00:28:42] Speaker D: But it's working, though, I reckon people are watching. [00:28:44] Speaker B: It is. [00:28:45] Speaker D: People tuned in. We all got up in the middle. [00:28:47] Speaker B: Of the night and their biggest audience. Is in America. So that's why they're keeping that time zone and they're getting records for viewership. So it is working. It's a tough one. I do like the format, but I just don't like the wave. And where are you going to send them? It needs to be a wave of truth up the fucking swellings. It needs to be a wave of truth to decide a world title. [00:29:11] Speaker A: You can't a wave of swellings it does. [00:29:14] Speaker B: And where are you going to get that? In America? Or at least an American time zone is an obvious one. What's the Hawaii to mainland time split? Any idea? [00:29:27] Speaker A: It can be too much. [00:29:28] Speaker B: Yeah, it's not that bad. It's a no brainer, but to me. [00:29:34] Speaker A: It'S the most obvious thing. It's like looking in front of your face and your nose is there but you don't want to acknowledge it. It's got to be a pipeline. [00:29:43] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a right and a left. It's got tubes that can be if it ends up being small, then I guess that is what it is. [00:29:53] Speaker A: But find the best day for the girls. Have a separate day for the girls. Find the best day for the guys. Have it bigger for the guys. The girls are starting to ripping those sort of waves anyway. [00:30:04] Speaker D: Does that mean the best surfer of the year because they win at Pipe? Is that making them the best surfer of the year? [00:30:10] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:30:10] Speaker B: That's interesting you say that because it's the exact opposite of what we're complaining about with trestles isn't if Philippe was. [00:30:17] Speaker D: The best surfer of the year, he. [00:30:19] Speaker A: Got all the results to show for it. [00:30:21] Speaker B: That's right. And then if it's at Pipe, he will never win. He'll never win another world title. So is that fair? You know what I mean? [00:30:30] Speaker D: I think he's improving. I think Tahiti he's more his nemesis than Pipe, I think. [00:30:35] Speaker B: I reckon. [00:30:36] Speaker A: Is that good results at Pipe? [00:30:38] Speaker B: If they're going to get good Pipe. There's no way Toledo is. I don't care, man. He just doesn't have that hunger for adrenaline the same as John, as Jack Robbo or some of these guys that they just want. [00:30:52] Speaker A: Dad's admitted it. So there's no issue. [00:30:57] Speaker D: The finals five format or trestles? [00:31:00] Speaker A: No, just the final five could be anywhere. [00:31:02] Speaker D: If you look at all the sports around the world, football, tennis, they all have this sort of knockout format and it gives look at AFL. The top eight go into the final. The Western Bulldogs come in at 8th and they end up winning the grand final. I'd say keep it, but I just want to see the finals contested in the best ways, not the way. [00:31:29] Speaker E: Sick. [00:31:29] Speaker A: T bone's sick. Azzi. [00:31:31] Speaker B: I think I'm sick as well. I think I'm calling it sick. I do like the excitement that it brings. Yeah, you compare it to lots of other sports and they've got the similar thing going on, but same deal. Just needs to be in good waves. And I don't know how they're going to do that, because the whole reason with them running in September is to shorten the World Championship Tour time frame. And that gives the surfers a rest, gives them more time off, and then it allows for more following on the Challenger Series. The Challenger Series sort of kicks in and you get that, I suppose. I mean, they've already had, what, four of the Challenger series and there's two to go, so it's not like they. [00:32:13] Speaker A: Said they were going to do that, but it hasn't really worked out that way. [00:32:15] Speaker B: I think they did one of the years. It definitely felt during COVID Yeah, maybe it was during that where it sort of went, well, championship Tour stopped and then Shangers really kicked in, so I could see how that was a factor. But it hasn't happened that much this year. There's only two left and I think we've had like at least four, maybe three or four. So, yeah, from that. But then what are you going to do? You're going to have your last comp in August at Tahiti and then wait. [00:32:43] Speaker A: Like four months to have no, you run the season from April to December. I don't give a fuck if someone like Philippe Toledo hasn't got it in Pipeline. That's where the finals are. You need to fucking bone up and surf there as much as you can, so you get used to it. [00:33:00] Speaker B: And at the end of the day, man, what is it? The primal respect that's come from surfing right from the start, was like big waves and big barrels was always like the sign of acknowledgement. That's where the respect came. Know the Greg Knoll paddling out at Wymeer or Pipe and that, and it's always like, mate, you can surf as good as you want, but they were the heroes, the ones who went out and took on the big stuff. [00:33:30] Speaker D: That's another Ketlefish Big Wave tour, isn't it? [00:33:33] Speaker B: Yeah, but I mean, at least you can't call yourself the World Champion if you just always which Damien Harbor no doubt did. And in those years of the beach breaks in cities and that, but it's mate, I think most surfers have the most respect for people who charge barreling waves. And if you're going to be World Champion, man, it's got to be decided in heavy waves. I don't know. [00:34:00] Speaker D: Do you know what I was thinking, as you before, as you guys were speaking? I reckon it's got to be an advantage finishing number one on the tour for Phil. Finishing number one, surely it's an advantage. So what I'm going to put out there and what I've picked up from other people, let's say for Tahiti and JBay and Pipe, you call them major events and you reward them 20,000 points for the winner. And then you've got the second level events like Brazil and El Salvador that are maybe not your heavy consequential waves, give them 10,000 points. So those waves that mean so much to surfers that we want to see people perform in, they're going to get rewarded, which will help you would help think that at the end of the year, the best top five charging surfers will finish in that top tier. [00:34:57] Speaker A: And that's going to incentivize surfing those waves, practicing there. Because if you know you're going to get 5000 points more or 10,000 points more, double the points to serve JBay and win JBay pipe and then you. [00:35:08] Speaker B: Get all these charges battling it out in two foot trestles at the end of it. [00:35:14] Speaker A: No, you got to have your thing. [00:35:15] Speaker D: Is Phil could start fifth. [00:35:18] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:35:20] Speaker D: And maybe John could be first. [00:35:23] Speaker A: Well, we're hypotheticals here, so let's call those for your majors with let's say points and a double points. Big wave world and then your finals at Pipeline. [00:35:32] Speaker B: Yeah, big wave world too. Remember they had the ratings of the comp on bending, how big it was. You got more points if it was gold or silver or whatever. [00:35:41] Speaker A: The big it is, the more points. [00:35:43] Speaker B: Yeah, which is pretty cool. [00:35:44] Speaker D: You were just saying before as you about big wave surfing, we all love big waves. Actually, I watched an interview with Kelly and Kyle Lenny and he actually said that every world champion should get a wild card into the eddy and should. [00:35:58] Speaker B: Surf in the that's a pretty good idea. [00:36:01] Speaker D: So yeah, I think Phil would take that on. [00:36:04] Speaker A: No, I reckon he would. Yeah, I reckon he got it. Why me out? [00:36:08] Speaker B: Well, mate, I mean, it's different. If you were him and you were scared of big waves, you'd go best water safety team in the world. Jet skis everywhere inflatable vests. Really? You're more than likely going to make the wave because you surf so good. It's not like back in the day where you're just paddling out in boardies with no jet skis and just having. [00:36:29] Speaker A: A siggy on the beach like Gary Green. [00:36:31] Speaker D: It's got to be intimidating. [00:36:33] Speaker A: I'm just going to have a siggy on the beach. [00:36:34] Speaker B: But in those days you snap your leggy and mate, that's it. It's you versus a whole lot of water. But now, man, it's definitely a lot safer for those guys in those comps that are sanctioned and got all that safety gear. [00:36:49] Speaker A: Like surely just get one of those little oxygen bottles you can get exactly. [00:36:55] Speaker B: Breathe. [00:36:56] Speaker A: Yeah, just put one of those down, anything. And if you get fucking smashed down. [00:37:00] Speaker B: Yeah, just be sucking on one of them. [00:37:01] Speaker A: Or just a Vape raspberry flavor banana Vape. [00:37:05] Speaker B: Yeah, just have one of them underwater. Just suck on one of them. [00:37:09] Speaker D: I've got a question for both you boys. If you could pick an Aussie surfer, an international surfer that can make love. [00:37:18] Speaker B: And have a child, who would it be? [00:37:22] Speaker A: We know as he's going to go greg long. [00:37:26] Speaker D: Go Marksy, wouldn't you? [00:37:27] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Jeez, what would you let's go to my question. [00:37:32] Speaker D: Not even fucking drinking beer anyway. [00:37:34] Speaker E: Fucking shut up. [00:37:35] Speaker D: Okay. [00:37:36] Speaker B: It better be good after that. It better be better than my question. [00:37:38] Speaker D: Give me your one Aussie in one international that can perform in 1ft and 25 foot. [00:37:43] Speaker B: Okay, well, you've got those complete obviously that's one. And the international is John. [00:37:50] Speaker D: Yeah, you boys went mainstream. What about you now, man? We had the guy in the shed here a while ago. I was going to pick Lori Towner, 1ft to 25 foot. [00:38:01] Speaker A: I don't know if his skills are that good in 1ft. [00:38:04] Speaker B: Yeah, pretty fucking good. [00:38:06] Speaker A: Very good surface, don't get me wrong, but he's not going to win trestles. [00:38:09] Speaker E: No. That's right. [00:38:09] Speaker B: No. [00:38:10] Speaker D: Neither would John. [00:38:11] Speaker B: I think he could. [00:38:13] Speaker A: John john's got a better chats than Laurie Town. [00:38:16] Speaker E: He does. [00:38:16] Speaker A: Everyone knows I'm the Laurie towner. Fucking. [00:38:22] Speaker B: You'Ve obviously got something, T Bone. So you know Laurie Town and who's the international? [00:38:26] Speaker D: Yeah, well, I was going to pick Laurie as my Aussie and your international. It's hard to go past Mr. Florence, is it? [00:38:32] Speaker B: It's impossible. Okay, now for the bigger question. [00:38:37] Speaker D: One make love. [00:38:39] Speaker B: No. Well, you will make love to we all know that's Rabbit Bartholomew but love older men. [00:38:48] Speaker A: Luckily, Rabbit knew there was a magic. [00:38:50] Speaker B: Cream puff treat, mate. If you could pick one Aussie pro surfer and one international pro surfer here we go. To have a baby and create some sort of super child surfing star of the future, who would it be? [00:39:07] Speaker D: Am I the one who's doing the business? [00:39:09] Speaker A: No. [00:39:10] Speaker B: What are you talking about? [00:39:12] Speaker A: Pick a guy, T Bone. [00:39:14] Speaker B: All he can think about is knobbing. Some pro surfer here, isn't it? Tom Curran and Lisa Anderson. [00:39:19] Speaker E: Oh. [00:39:20] Speaker B: Tile Bender. [00:39:23] Speaker A: Central California. [00:39:25] Speaker B: That's a ripper answer, t Bone. I love it. [00:39:28] Speaker A: I don't mind it. [00:39:28] Speaker B: Maybe they'd create some sort of Ethan Ewing clone. [00:39:31] Speaker D: Wouldn't Cooper mark Richards. [00:39:36] Speaker B: That'd be a good one, too. Oh, jeez. I would have to say what about well, yeah, let's just get the Aussie. Oh, no, I had to do international, didn't I? I would go for Jack Robbo, obviously, and he's Mrs. [00:39:56] Speaker A: Surely. [00:39:56] Speaker B: No, well, she's not a pro surfer. So Jack Robbo and Caitlin Simmons, once she turns of age, obviously. [00:40:07] Speaker A: She's 18, isn't she? [00:40:08] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:40:09] Speaker B: No, she's only maybe not 17. [00:40:10] Speaker A: Okay. [00:40:12] Speaker B: Yeah. The future of women surfing. And then Jack Robbo factor, mate, imagine it's like, wasn't there pretty sure China had some basketball, like some massive seven foot six dude, and they mate, that's. [00:40:31] Speaker A: A normal basketball player size. Way taller, like eight foot. [00:40:35] Speaker B: Yeah, it was huge. And there was some huge basketball lady woman and the government said, you guys need to make us a baby. And they did. And it's that dude is in the NBA. That huge dude. [00:40:51] Speaker A: Giant guy. [00:40:52] Speaker B: Is that him? [00:40:53] Speaker A: Giant guy, yeah. [00:40:57] Speaker B: And that was legit. It happened. There you go. Maybe Jack Freestone and Elena Blanchard have already done. [00:41:05] Speaker A: You know, I've got one that's going to absolutely blow your mind. [00:41:09] Speaker B: Okay, you ready? [00:41:10] Speaker A: Steph Gilmore and Ethan Ewing. [00:41:13] Speaker B: No, it has to be one national war and one international. That was the rules. Otherwise I would have said Jack Robbo and Steph Gilmore. I thought I was right there some super Rozzy. [00:41:22] Speaker A: All right, because that would be pretty epic. Let's see, I thought I was a. [00:41:27] Speaker D: Bit of surfer from the 80s. [00:41:28] Speaker B: Namu. [00:41:29] Speaker D: Just to mix it up. [00:41:30] Speaker A: Well, yeah, there you go. [00:41:34] Speaker D: BL and bloody frida Zamba's got all. [00:41:41] Speaker B: The answers to this. We need to ask him this question once every podcast. [00:41:47] Speaker A: Who's your progeny coming from? Let's go with. [00:41:54] Speaker D: Dog. Marsh and Sylvana Lima. [00:41:57] Speaker A: Can you imagine the paddling gloves around the kids born with paddling gloves? I can't think of anyone. Okay, anyway, so where were we there? We've talked about Sickle flick. All right, I've got to think of one. [00:42:19] Speaker B: Okay. Sick or flick. Intentional breeding of pro surface. Government endorsed, government regulated, enforced. [00:42:29] Speaker A: Government enforced. [00:42:30] Speaker B: Endorsed and enforced. [00:42:31] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:42:32] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah, that's sick. I'm giving that the sick. [00:42:34] Speaker A: Yeah, I like that. I reckon that's good. [00:42:36] Speaker B: Are we up to Steve Irwin? [00:42:38] Speaker D: Clive Palmer? [00:42:38] Speaker A: Make the best surface that you can. Yeah, let's do that. Because we've still got a little bit of Changas to go and that sort of thing. We also do want to give our Surfer of the Year, and even though well, let's call it a provisional, because. [00:42:53] Speaker D: We'Ve still got let's leave Steve Mcclub. [00:42:56] Speaker B: To the Surfer of the Year. [00:42:58] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:43:00] Speaker B: WSL or otherwise. [00:43:01] Speaker A: Could be anything, mate. [00:43:02] Speaker B: Okay. [00:43:04] Speaker A: I did think you'd be going for the old mate the old mate slab tour. [00:43:09] Speaker B: Nate Florence. [00:43:10] Speaker A: Nate Florence? [00:43:10] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:43:10] Speaker A: Have I got that on the thing? [00:43:13] Speaker E: Don't know. [00:43:13] Speaker B: It'd be pretty hard to go past him. He's quietened down a bit the last little bit, though, hasn't he? [00:43:21] Speaker D: Well, he's been injured, though. Yeah, he got injured recently. [00:43:24] Speaker B: Yeah, he did, yeah. He came out of the gates pretty hard. I mean, Jack Robert at the start of year was pretty impressive. Ethan Ewing. You would you'd have to give it to Nate Florence, really, just for sheer entertainment. I don't know if it blended when that island stuff, was that this year or was that the end of last year? [00:43:46] Speaker A: Yeah, I think it was this year. It was wintertime over there. [00:43:51] Speaker B: Yeah, I know the Aileen's one that big right hander was this year, but I thought he had that big mulley one as well. I don't know if that was yeah. [00:43:59] Speaker A: It might have been last year. [00:44:00] Speaker B: Jan fairball or either way. Yeah, he's on a pretty crazy trajectory. And if they don't swap the WSL final trestle format, is John John going to join him? [00:44:15] Speaker A: Is he that interested anyway? [00:44:16] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know. He comes across as not that interested, and then every now and then you get a snippet of how much he wants to win World titles. [00:44:23] Speaker A: Well, people say people say he's competitive, but who knows? [00:44:26] Speaker E: Who knows? [00:44:27] Speaker A: I just sail around in my yacht and all my money. [00:44:31] Speaker D: He's so elusive, isn't he? [00:44:32] Speaker B: He is elusive. [00:44:33] Speaker D: Very elusive. [00:44:34] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:44:35] Speaker B: Anyway, who's your surf of the year then? [00:44:37] Speaker A: Give us your female surf of the year. [00:44:39] Speaker B: Female surf of the year, mate. I would probably give it to Caitlin Simmers. Breakthrough CT win. [00:44:48] Speaker A: Two wins, right? [00:44:49] Speaker B: Was it two, was it? Yeah, I think I picked one of them Portugal and then dropping how old is she? [00:44:59] Speaker A: Twelve. [00:45:00] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:45:01] Speaker D: She's got some maturing. [00:45:03] Speaker B: Well, the other reason I think she surf for the year is because she's dropping edits like the guys do that are good quality edits. They're groundbreaking in terms of the performance level, but the fact that she's just putting them out there, punching them out in amongst the competition and just editing. [00:45:21] Speaker A: The whole thing herself, editing and all. [00:45:23] Speaker B: That, and just giving other women surfers confidence, and younger ones, I guess, to go, hey, we can put edits out. Don't be so worried about how you're coming across or whatever, because the guys are just dropping them willing. They're shoving them in your face faster than you can eat them, whereas the chicks don't seem to do it that much. There's nowhere near as much edits of girl surfing coming out. There's so many edits now, you literally can't even watch them all. If you've got a busy life, which most of us do, you struggle to get through everything that's available and it's all free and it's literally in your pocket, in the palm of your hand, and it's hard to get through them all, but you hardly see any chick stuff. [00:46:07] Speaker E: So. [00:46:07] Speaker B: Yeah, I reckon. Caitlin Simmons, man, good on you for making some flicks and getting the ladies and the women surfing all fired up. And all the young chicks would be imagine all the young chicks around the world, like 1213, just watching, going Caitlin Simmons, just dropping edits and crazy tunes and ripping it up. [00:46:22] Speaker A: Super inspiring. [00:46:23] Speaker E: Yeah, it is. [00:46:24] Speaker A: It's what you want to be doing. [00:46:26] Speaker B: And then, yeah, finished in the top. [00:46:27] Speaker D: So much room for improvement though, isn't she? She's going to get better. [00:46:30] Speaker B: What are you saying? Shit house? [00:46:32] Speaker D: No, but you can see how she served. She's going to next five years, she'll. [00:46:37] Speaker B: Get stronger for sure. What about you, T Bone? Female separate the year? [00:46:41] Speaker D: Well, I'm going Molly, because I'm still impressed because Molly, like I said before, she got cut from tour, fell off, which would have been a massive hit for her, and just grinded through the challenger re qualified, won sunset finaled in a few events this year. Got to the final five. She's going to the Olympics. Might even win gold medal ads yet. [00:47:06] Speaker A: Tahiti. [00:47:07] Speaker D: I just think she's a bright prospect and I'm going to give it to Molly. [00:47:12] Speaker B: Nice. [00:47:14] Speaker A: What about you, Blokes? [00:47:16] Speaker E: Fuck jeez. [00:47:19] Speaker D: I mean, Ethan Ewing for fuck's guy breaks his back and he goes to Trestles and he is levels above everyone, including Phil. [00:47:30] Speaker B: If he had Phil's air game unbeatable every day of the week. [00:47:35] Speaker D: But I just like Ethan's demeanor. He just goes about his business. He's surfing is the best in the world. And I just don't think anyone's, no one comes near him, past or present, on the rail. [00:47:52] Speaker E: Yeah. Cool. [00:47:52] Speaker D: To me, finishing second, it'll put fire in his belly to come back next year. [00:47:58] Speaker B: Just bringing power back in. Power surfing back in. [00:48:01] Speaker D: Dynamic is fucking precise. Like a surgeon. Like a surgeon. Not even heart surgery. [00:48:06] Speaker B: Drunk surgeon. Just a sober one. [00:48:09] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know how precise he was in. He looked like he was angry at Trestles. Those fucking calves that he was think that's why boys listen. I know that Vaughan Deadly does. I'd like to get those guys. I'm sure they've got in the works. Get an Ethan Ewing song about know Mick fanning. Is that fucking good? Sort of thing. [00:48:33] Speaker B: That's a good song, that one. [00:48:34] Speaker A: You hit it here first. [00:48:35] Speaker B: Yeah, I think they're going to. There's been plenty of requests for their album to ain't that sort of album. They got a few good songs. [00:48:41] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:48:42] Speaker D: The Goons Doom are playing up at ULU's last couple of days. [00:48:46] Speaker B: Are they? [00:48:46] Speaker D: Yeah. Well, they might be playing another show. [00:48:50] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:48:50] Speaker D: Hopefully they'd be still playing next week. [00:48:52] Speaker A: Were they playing at the Mana? [00:48:55] Speaker E: Mana. [00:48:55] Speaker D: Mana Ulawatu. [00:48:57] Speaker B: Did you give us your best? [00:48:58] Speaker A: I haven't. I this one's a little bit out of left field, but my female Surfer of the Year I've actually been watching her YouTube edits that she puts out Lake Peterson and they're pretty entertaining. She's married to an Australian guy who just won the WSL Fantasy. [00:49:26] Speaker E: Did he? [00:49:26] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:49:28] Speaker B: Call an insider job. [00:49:29] Speaker A: There 100%. [00:49:31] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:49:31] Speaker A: Lakey pearson tick sick. I think it's Tom. His name is Tom flick mate. You fucking cheating cunt. He won the whole thing. [00:49:44] Speaker B: Did he get anything? [00:49:45] Speaker A: No, the double cell gave him fuck all, man. [00:49:47] Speaker E: Nothing. [00:49:47] Speaker B: They said you get a VIP pass. [00:49:51] Speaker D: Lakey out for a dinner. [00:49:52] Speaker E: No. [00:49:53] Speaker B: You get Eric. Come stay at your house for a. [00:49:55] Speaker D: Week and shoot a documentary. [00:50:01] Speaker A: Eric shows up with a picture of Tom on his shirt. [00:50:07] Speaker B: And no pants. [00:50:08] Speaker A: Hi, Eric. I've got some falafel out left field, but she won JBA first event winning in about four years. I think you like the old ponytail. [00:50:22] Speaker D: Old pony, that flicks in the wind there. [00:50:25] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:50:25] Speaker A: No, I think I really like her surfing. It's not my favorite style, but I just like a good comeback story. And I think she's come back from really, really big gouges. So she's my surf of the year for the ladies side and obviously on Men's laurie Town. [00:50:44] Speaker B: That's Laurie Tanner. [00:50:46] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:50:46] Speaker B: He put out a pretty sick edit. Was that this year or last year? [00:50:49] Speaker A: I don't care. Still my surf of the year. [00:50:51] Speaker B: Cool. Awesome. [00:50:52] Speaker A: You got you jack rubber. I got my fair call. [00:50:57] Speaker B: He's due to come back west then, surely, isn't he? [00:50:59] Speaker A: Yeah, come back on board, Laurie. We love to have a beer with you. Now, in all seriousness, I've got to go. Ethan Ewing as well. I just don't know if I've seen better rail surfing in three foot waves than I have at Trestle's last week. [00:51:15] Speaker B: You haven't. [00:51:17] Speaker A: Felipe had probably a bit more variation with a couple of airs and stuff, but especially at one wave of Ethan Ewings, where he just hit the lip so hard. Hard and forced that. Tell you what, the ground's probably still shaking. Those cobblestones are still fucking oscillating, mate. After that, it was mental. [00:51:38] Speaker E: So. Yeah. [00:51:39] Speaker A: Ethan Ewing and Lek Peterson Interesting. [00:51:43] Speaker B: Best comp of the year. [00:51:45] Speaker A: Comp of the year, was it? [00:51:47] Speaker B: Wasn't many. [00:51:48] Speaker A: Very easy decision, mate. River Pro. [00:51:51] Speaker B: Yeah, nice. Yeah, I'm glad you said that, because so many people have been talking on other platforms about how shit the waves were this year for the comp. Everyone said, oh, shit. Apart from that one day at JBay, it was shit the whole time. We had a couple of good days. [00:52:05] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:52:05] Speaker B: And I'm just like, Mate, Margie's is firing. [00:52:07] Speaker A: What are you talking about? [00:52:07] Speaker B: Not one person has said that. Oh, yeah, and Margie's was good. It was the saving grace of the tour, man. You had one good day at J Bay. [00:52:17] Speaker D: Even John said it's the best comp of the year. [00:52:19] Speaker B: Yeah, that's right. But, mate, so many people have said how shitty waves there was for the whole tour and they failed to mention that Margie's delivered as usual, and every year they get a clean six to eight foot offshore day, if not two. [00:52:34] Speaker A: I think people are probably still a little bit devoed that they didn't run. [00:52:37] Speaker B: The box, whatever, but, yeah, for sure they should have. [00:52:40] Speaker A: As far as main brake goes, it was pretty bloody good main break, so. [00:52:43] Speaker B: I'm glad that you said that and no doubt you just had lots of fun swanning around down there with VIPs and microphones and media passes and stuff like that. [00:52:51] Speaker A: As you did, mate. [00:52:52] Speaker D: Yeah, T Bone did bring on the. [00:52:56] Speaker B: When the World tour? Yeah, when the world tour comes to town, mate, we're fans of Surfing go down there and fan it up. [00:53:03] Speaker D: Yeah, there's no bigger fan. [00:53:04] Speaker A: T Bone cuddles with bugs and happy man Nifty's cord jacket. [00:53:11] Speaker B: He's still running the Cord billabong jacket. [00:53:13] Speaker D: What if he's running the Barrel Surf podcast to you? [00:53:16] Speaker B: Yeah, I think we gave him a. [00:53:18] Speaker D: Small shout out to old Surf dad who was running his tea at Trestle's Comp. [00:53:23] Speaker B: Oh, was he? [00:53:24] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:53:24] Speaker D: Send him a ah. [00:53:25] Speaker A: Was that who that was? Yeah, old Surf dad in that good old Surfdad. And I should mention, you boys are, excuse me, enjoying your cheeky monkey beer out of a custody cooler. We'll take a photo later. [00:53:39] Speaker D: Primero. [00:53:39] Speaker A: Primero Surf. Our good mate Luki down in Tasmania. If you're searching for T shirts, hats and whatever else, have a look at Premiero Surf. He's got a good website and he's a bit of a cordlord old Lukey buddy. [00:53:53] Speaker D: Thanks, mate. [00:53:55] Speaker B: Your favorite comp then of the year, T Bone. [00:53:57] Speaker D: Well, obviously, Mugs, but I did enjoy round 16 of JBay when it really turned on. JBay is the best wave on tour. JBay for my style of surfing. I love JBay. [00:54:12] Speaker B: Yeah, pretty good. I mean, outside of those two, there wasn't anything else to like, really. [00:54:18] Speaker A: Anyway, that one good day in. Yeah, really, really good point rate, but not to the JBO standard. [00:54:28] Speaker E: No. [00:54:28] Speaker D: What do you reckon the worst was? [00:54:30] Speaker A: The worst? [00:54:31] Speaker D: Had to be Brazil. [00:54:32] Speaker A: Sure. [00:54:33] Speaker D: Brazil was shocking. [00:54:34] Speaker A: That whole it's like, how many backwash waves can you watch before you just go, fuck this, this is fucked. It's just unbelievable. I appreciate that. They've got a huge audience and all the rest of it. The fucking serf's just not there. [00:54:50] Speaker D: That's carton. [00:54:51] Speaker A: That's carton. [00:54:52] Speaker D: Or a cube. [00:54:54] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. [00:54:55] Speaker A: All right, well, while we're on that, what destination is coming on tour? When they release the schedule and what's going off? [00:55:06] Speaker D: Fuck me. [00:55:07] Speaker B: Well, we've heard rumours of Cloudbreak making a comeback. It's the one that's Cloudbreak's on sorely missed the most. [00:55:15] Speaker D: Who's going to pay for it? [00:55:16] Speaker E: Adzzy? [00:55:19] Speaker B: Kelly Slater. [00:55:20] Speaker A: Kelly Slater's wife? [00:55:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I think, mate, something in indo. They need something in Indo, man. They just got to have it's. Just such a no brainer. [00:55:32] Speaker A: Oh, it's crazy, isn't it? [00:55:33] Speaker B: Indo. [00:55:33] Speaker D: The government just take, mate. [00:55:36] Speaker B: Yeah, but even still, I suppose that's in Bali. [00:55:40] Speaker A: Go back to Kramers. How fun was the Kramers comp? [00:55:44] Speaker B: Or just go to ULU's, man. The infrastructure at ULU's now is easily good enough to host an event like that and beyond. And, man, it's that crowded anyway. They'd be doing everyone a favor to knock them on the head for a week. Yeah, I don't know, man. All those would be a sick wave. It's got performance, it can have size, it can have barrels. It's got a lot of options. [00:56:09] Speaker A: If it's big, take it down to Padang. [00:56:11] Speaker E: Could do. [00:56:12] Speaker B: Or if it's big, just send them out. [00:56:13] Speaker A: It send it out outside corner. [00:56:15] Speaker B: Yeah, it'd be sick, man. [00:56:16] Speaker A: No, I like that too. Yeah, I just reckon Uluz is a good option. Pick the eyes out of it. Over ten days, everyone flying to Bali. [00:56:26] Speaker B: And I guess that's a difference. Margaret river at WA is like, Come here, we'll give you two mil. And Indo is like, Come here, give us two. But probably not that much. But it is definitely the stark contrast, probably, between government agreements that's making it difficult. But you'd have to think that surely they can I mean, surely the government in Bali understands how big surfing is. Like, the whole island's just making that much money off surfing there, surely. [00:56:58] Speaker A: But just getting back to know we had a really nice time down at the Maggie's Comp. This know. Thanks to Wsoth for the hospitality and all the rest of it. I just don't think they need that big a fucking shindig. It literally takes Justin Magix and then a surfing WA team two weeks to set up, two weeks to knock down. You just don't need that much fucking infrastructure. [00:57:21] Speaker B: And you think most of the infrastructure is providing freebies, like all that VIP area and all that and all that food and catering. There's a lot of hangers on, like we are. [00:57:37] Speaker D: Well, that's only in the VIP ten adsy. [00:57:40] Speaker B: Yeah, but there's a lot of local. [00:57:41] Speaker D: Businesses that probably rely on that week. [00:57:44] Speaker B: A lot of local businesses sell heap. [00:57:46] Speaker D: Of food and a heap of whatever else. [00:57:48] Speaker B: Yeah, but a lot of those local businesses are given stuff for free, man. [00:57:51] Speaker A: They're not relying on competition, surfing competition for their business, mate. [00:57:57] Speaker B: It does definitely inject. I remember hearing how much it did inject into the economy, but it's not like our economy down here is struggling. But that's just us. You're talking about WSL comps as a whole? Not specifically. Just marks. [00:58:11] Speaker A: I'm talking the whole thing because I do these massive big shows, tents and all these bits and pieces. [00:58:18] Speaker D: Do you reckon it was massive down at Mark's? [00:58:20] Speaker A: Well, it takes them two weeks to set it up. It's got to be fairly big. [00:58:23] Speaker D: I really find it that massive. [00:58:24] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:58:25] Speaker A: You walk from one end of the site to the other. It's. [00:58:31] Speaker B: Yeah, I know what you're saying. By the same token, it does definitely bring there's a lot of people that will go down who aren't necessarily in a surfing and they're like, oh, man, we'll go down, we've got a pass, and we're going to have lunch and drink wine and watch it. And it does create some excitement. [00:58:49] Speaker A: Yeah, I see that you didn't have that infrastructure. But if money is an issue yeah, if money is an issue, there's a curtain, too, apparently. There's all this talk about always about this guy dirt. See if he's a billionaire running it and making a loss each. So maybe money isn't an issue. [00:59:10] Speaker D: We're just lucky in WA that the WA government funds the whole event. [00:59:15] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:59:16] Speaker A: Which is not the case everywhere else. [00:59:17] Speaker B: No, but you know what? [00:59:18] Speaker D: Bring back Snapper on the CT. Bring it back. [00:59:23] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:59:24] Speaker A: Can you have three events in Australia? [00:59:26] Speaker B: I mean, they did for a long that's the point. I was going to say, we do love having Snapper. It's definitely good for it. But you got to go, man. Out of all the surf in the world, like three in Australia, you can understand how other people would be thinking it's biased towards Aussies, but it's just because our government's back at it's consistent enough. [00:59:48] Speaker D: They pump the sand in there. [00:59:50] Speaker B: I'm not doubting the quality of it. It's just when it's supposed to be a world tour and you have. Nine events and one third of them in one country. [00:59:57] Speaker A: Three Australian right handers as well. [00:59:59] Speaker D: I just think that's a financial decision and just a political decision as well. That's why they haven't gone back to Fiji. [01:00:12] Speaker A: On a heartbeat. I mean, they've had a fuck they've. [01:00:15] Speaker D: Had some Duds there. [01:00:16] Speaker A: When was the last time they had pumping super chews for the comp there? It's been years. [01:00:20] Speaker D: Fucking Europe hasn't really delivered. Get rid of me. [01:00:24] Speaker A: So, yeah, get rid of Portugal. [01:00:26] Speaker D: What about the ranch? [01:00:28] Speaker A: The ranch no brainer. Get rid of it. Do you mean the surf break in California or the actual surf ranch? [01:00:33] Speaker B: The Surf Ranch. [01:00:34] Speaker A: Bring the ranch on. That'd be good. Have you heard about that place in that restricted area, central California, apparently next year, no doubt. Just break down the yeah, no, fuck the sephranch. It should be a specialty event, unfortunately. [01:00:48] Speaker D: But you never know. New CEO. [01:00:51] Speaker A: Who's going to be the CEO while we're here right now? [01:00:54] Speaker B: I don't know any I'm hearing Bugs. [01:00:56] Speaker D: Has put his hand up for really? [01:00:58] Speaker E: Yeah. [01:00:59] Speaker B: That was just TB. Nominating, Bugs. He's just written 50 emails every day. Maybe like, at work. What are you doing up there? Writing new safety protocols. Just emailing. WSL bugs. Bugs. Bugs. Bugs. [01:01:12] Speaker C: Bugs. [01:01:12] Speaker B: Are you going to apply? [01:01:14] Speaker E: Come on, bugs. [01:01:14] Speaker A: Come on, bugs. I don't know. [01:01:23] Speaker D: Yeah, well, Bugs was the commissioner, and Bugs brought the dream to her. [01:01:28] Speaker B: Bugs is a core surfer. [01:01:31] Speaker D: Bring bugs back, mate. [01:01:32] Speaker B: Well, it's just a bit old, man. [01:01:34] Speaker A: Does Bugs want to do it, though? [01:01:35] Speaker B: Yeah, that's the other thing. Wow. [01:01:37] Speaker A: Bugs has got to be in his 70s, right? He might not have the energy for it. [01:01:40] Speaker D: Of course he does. [01:01:42] Speaker A: He's just hopping around looking for magic cream puff trees. [01:01:46] Speaker D: Good. [01:01:46] Speaker A: Any bugs? We love you. Anyway, let's move on to the time when we get ourselves a beer. [01:01:55] Speaker D: How you going, folks? This is Ronnie Blakey. You're listening to the Barrel Surf podcast. The one and only, the Sound of the west. [01:02:02] Speaker E: Yeeha. [01:02:03] Speaker A: All right, so we are back with the Clive Palmer cup steve Elman's sleep. But we will start with Clive Palmer cup. T Bone. What is your nomination for juke, herd or otherwise in Palmer? [01:02:20] Speaker D: Well, fuck. I don't want to sound like a hater, Nami, but I'm going to give it to the wazzle on a couple of things. Just how we're still waiting to hear on what happened to fucking ELO and who the new CEO is. I just think the silent treatment is a fuck way to run a. [01:02:42] Speaker A: Mate. You work for one of the biggest companies in the world. [01:02:45] Speaker D: Don't you know if you look at any other companies, when they sack the boss, there's reasons why, and the boss writes a message. I just think it's completely weird. And the second one is, why didn't they run the finals day on the best day during that waiting period? [01:03:02] Speaker A: Crystal ball, my friend. [01:03:03] Speaker D: So I don't know who's calling the shots in the Wazzle now. Is it Miley Dialer? I'll give it to maybe Miley Diler, then. [01:03:13] Speaker A: I heard that there was an accountant running it at the moment, but that was just my mail. [01:03:18] Speaker D: That doesn't sound good. [01:03:20] Speaker E: Namu. Yeah. [01:03:22] Speaker A: What do you got, Azzy? [01:03:23] Speaker B: Well, look, I've got a long one. Wouldn't believe you. Wouldn't read about it. [01:03:28] Speaker A: All right, here we go. [01:03:29] Speaker B: Mine sort of a it's a combo. It's a steve and a Clive. So I'm nominating, but it needs to be a Clive. It's a bit of an ingest one, but mate, so Steve Irwin salute Kevin Merryfield, 85 years old, he's been on the potty. All our fans know him. Absolute pioneer of the area and still surfing today. Even though he can't stand up, he just paddles out and lays down on. [01:04:03] Speaker A: His eight foot six southwest surfing royalty pioneer. [01:04:08] Speaker B: But then I would nominate myself for the Clive. [01:04:12] Speaker A: Okay. [01:04:12] Speaker B: And you're going to have to wait till the end of the story to find out why I've nominated myself for the Clive. [01:04:18] Speaker A: I have had some insider information on this particular situation. Carry on. [01:04:23] Speaker B: All right, so about a week ago, down at our local main break, stellar day. After a long period of winter blues, waves were in the four to six foot range. Really good quality, quite peaky. Thick and chunky. Sunny offshore, ticking all the boxes. I was out there with a few local crew and, mate, there were some good waves going down. And halfway through the session, or three quarters of the way through my session, old Kev Merrifield graces the lineup with his presence. And as soon as he paddles out there, which he does at this spot a bit, you're always like, hey, everyone, Kev's up next. Because he struggles to catch waves. He pulls all his hearing AIDS out in the water and he's got a helmet on. So he's fucking mate, he's that deaf. You got to scream at him to have any conversation. And he can't stand up anymore because of his hips and his balance and all this sort of stuff. And, mate, he's 85, for fuck's sake. He's doing so well. Just to make it out the back, the six footers, there's a couple of legit six footers coming through, like, pretty consistent four to five. And the OD six and a bit of poke in them because it's still winter. Anyway, so he's out there, and I was sitting out the back with me mate, Luke Gerson. Shout out to Lukey. And it was me and him and Kev. And we'd been playing cat and mouse with a few. Me and Luke had had a couple, Kev had paddled for a few, but he's so slow to go from sitting on his board to turning around, laying down and committing on a paddle, like, it's obviously because he's 85. So, mate, he's out there and he's tried for a couple and we've had a couple. And then me and Luke and Kev are sitting furthest out. And then we see this lump, like a bigger one, and we're like, yes, we start bolting for it. A, to hopefully get in position to catch it, or B, just to get under the fucking thing because you don't want to catch one on the head out there. It can push you back a long way or who knows what, but ruin your day. Standard situation. And obviously me and Luke were a bit quicker to go from sitting up to laying down. And we paddle faster too. So we left him behind. And as I was ducked on, we couldn't get to it in time and we're just scratching under it. And as I'm going under this thing, I'm thinking in my head, fucking Kev, what a legend. He's fully about to wear this thing square on the head. 85 years old. It was a legit six footer. It was the biggest wave of the whole day, and it was a cracker. But we couldn't get to it. And as I'm duck diving, I'm just thinking in my head, I can't believe he's wearing this thing. What a fucking legend. Anyway, we get through it. Lucky is not another one. I thought I better look back to make sure Kev's okay. And being in the west and in the morning, the sun's in the eyes, kev's in a sea of whitewater. I can only just see him. He's not really up that far above the surface of the ocean. And there was some other dude near him and that know wore it as well. And he obviously jumped on his board and was trying to get out of the impact zone before further sets come and wash you all the way in because they can wash you all the way to the beach from there. And then I'm like, watching Kevin. It's a bit hard, whitewatery and sun. And I'm like, he's not moving too quickly over there. Like, oh, I better go and check on him. So I start paddling back into the impact zone to see if he's okay. And then I can see, like, he's not getting on his board. And then I'm like, mate, he doesn't have his board. His fucking leggy snapped on his yeah, so he snapped his leggy. So I'm like, oh, shit, mate, I need to get in and give him a hand. So I'm paddling over and I'm thinking, I'm going to get over there and say, hey, Kev, you need a hand? And I thought he was just going to be the typical fucking war horse that he is, and just, mate, I'll be right. And that's what I was expecting. And when I got talks to and when I got over there, mate, he had a bit of a shocked look on his face and he was pretty wide eyed. And he's like, yeah, I need some help. And I'm like, oh, fuck, yeah. He's just copped a flogging because he didn't. Probably got held down, violated a bit. And once again, how many times we need to say it, he's 85, just got lit up by a six footer and he wasn't treading water too well. And he's like, Mate, just stay with me while I swim in. Stay with me. I'm like, Mate, just fucking take my board, Kev. Don't worry about it. He's like, no, what about you? And I'm like, Mate, I'll be fucking fine. I'll swim next to you. So I had to really tell him, mate, just fucking get on my board. [01:09:03] Speaker D: You had a bigger board, too. You would have had a bigger board. [01:09:06] Speaker B: Yeah, I had a six, eight. That was a fish. [01:09:08] Speaker D: Floated him all right? [01:09:09] Speaker E: Yeah. [01:09:10] Speaker B: So it floated him. Yeah, but if I was on a six one, yeah, mate, still would have been better than because he wasn't floating very good at all. So I managed to convince him to jump on it. And as he's done that, I've quickly reached down, pulled off my leggy and put it on his leg while he started paddling. I don't know if he even knows that I did that, though, because then this wave comes like a good four or five footer and it breaks. And then I see him just bear hug the board, like sideways, because I'm thinking he probably doesn't know the leggies on maybe, or I don't know. So he's just like, Mate, I'm not losing this. So, mate, like, once again, like 85 bear hugging a board while a four foot whitewater just steamrolls you and tries to rip it out your hands. So anyway, that happened about another three or four times as we progressively went in. And I'm swimming under more over on the left side. Well, we're getting washed down towards the north end of the reef. Anyway, he's slowly getting away from me on the last whitewater, he travels a bit further than me and I'm swimming in. And then, mate, down on that north side of the reef, listeners that don't know it gets really craggy down the end. There the reef where you get up and there's a barrier reef at this joint. And in the middle of the wave, the barrier reef is quite flat and smooth, but the further you go down towards that left, it's a deep drop off to the side and there's big like holes and it really surges up and back. It can be two foot of water or at least a foot of water, and then go fully dry and then surge again. Anyway, so he's down in this zone and he's trying to get up. And I've got booties on and I've got up on the reef, but I'm like 30 meters away and I'm trying to run over, going, man, he's going to need some help over here. Because he was puffed, man, he wasn't looking comfortable that whole swim in. He obviously got held down on that first wave. And I knew that he was not and sorry for the listeners, don't know. He had an open art surgery seven months ago, January this year. So yeah, let's just throw that in the mix as well. So I'm like, mate, and he's looking stressed out. And I'm like, fuck, you could have a heart attack or something. I don't know. He's like literally recovering from open heart surgery and being what isn't an octogenarian? [01:11:25] Speaker E: Octogen. [01:11:26] Speaker B: That sounds good. And anyway, so I'm trying to get down because I've seen him getting surged up on the reef and then try to get up. But because he can't stand up very quick and it's unstable and there's water, he'd get surged back off the shelf and back into the deep water. And he's just laying on my board on my Christensen six eight Twin. It cost me a pretty penny. And I'm just like, that thing is getting hammered. Because he's just laying on it on the reef, just bellyboarding on it. But mate, at this stage I'm like, whatever. This is actually serious. This is pretty serious. It's life and death for this dude. So I'm like, whatever. [01:12:05] Speaker D: You were swimming? [01:12:06] Speaker B: Well, no, because I came in, he got washed further down the reef. Yeah, but I had to run down. And I'm trying to get down there, but it was hard to walk over that reef. There's like holes and stuff everywhere. And it's still surging. So I'm watching. He's been surged up and back about three times. He's getting ragged old. He's swearing his box off the old boy like he wasn't enjoying it. And then I get within about 10 meters and he gets surged up and then all the water just drains off. He gets pulled off his board and then goes off. Kid, you not my board. And then just goes into this huge crack in the reef. And he's laying mate, this crack is length ways his whole body. He is wedged in this freaking crack on the edge of it. And I'm like I'm freaking out. And I'm trying to run and get I'm like, holy shit. He could get stuck in this thing. Leggy snag or you snap a leg or something like he is wedged in the reef as the water's drained off. Then another, like 1ft surge comes, just blasts him out of this crack. And then he's getting rolled again. And then he finally gets to his feet. And I'm about 5 meters from him and he's facing the beach and he hasn't looked behind him and is like a proper one footer just going vertical behind him. And he's in like ankle high water. I'm like kev behind you. I can't believe he heard me. I must have yelled pretty loud. And he's just turned the old boy and seen it and just done this 85 year old jump into the whitewater. Just got skittled again. But this one at least like skittled him towards the base way up the reef. And then by then I'm a bit late, but then I'm there to help him up, and I help him stand up. And, mate, he's got a pretty shocked look in his eyeballs, like he wasn't the old warhorse copped. A bit of a beating. And, mate, he had claret pissing out of his nose. He's like rubbing like this and he's like, how's me nose? And I'm like, no, it's just a scratch. Lucky had a helmet on. Mate, both hands were bleeding. His face was bleeding. I'm assuming he's black and blue under his wetsuit because old people tend to bruise easily. So I'm like, Mate, you okay. You okay. Just making sure that he wasn't, like, having a heart attack at the same time. So then we help him across the reef, and he's like, yeah, I'm okay. And I'm like, Mate, and this whole time my board's just, like, washing around on the rocks because it's strapped to his ankle. I grabbed that and I said, Mate, I need to go get your board. Because people that know this break know your board goes all the way down there, hits a certain beach break that's Taj Barrow's favorite, and then it hits that rip, it gets sucked out the sea and you never see it again. [01:14:46] Speaker A: Madagascar. [01:14:47] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. [01:14:48] Speaker E: Stop. [01:14:48] Speaker B: And I'm like, Mate, if you want your board, I got to go. Are you okay? And he's like, yeah, I'm okay. So I jump off the reef and go and grab his board before it hits this rip, and then I get his board, this massive tank of a thing, and I'm walking back up the beach with both boards. And by this stage, he's made it to the sand. Luki's come in from the other direction. And then we get up there and, mate, he's dripping blood, the old boy, and he's puffing a bit and give him the board back, and me and Luke like, Yo, Kane. He looks at and he's know, I think I might be getting too old for this. And me and you're like, Nah, mate, you're fine. You're fucking nah, you got a few left in you. You made it in all right, didn't he? So anyway, we're waltzing back up. He's like, thanks for that, mate. And I'm like, yeah, it's all good, man. No dramas. But, mate, then he goes up and he's getting his weddy off, and old Andy Jones is up there chatting to him, and he said he just pulled his weddy off and he just had the biggest fucking egg on his shin. Probably when he was in that crack. He said, a huge egg, and that was bleeding as well. And, mate, he would have fucking had sore spots all over the joint. He literally got grated over the reef at least, like, four times. Anyway, so he's on his way. He's gone home and I've gone to work. I'm like, oh, well, that's the end of me session. The wind was sort of coming up a bit and I'm like, yeah, we're done. I got some sick waves, actually. It was freaking pumping. And then I've gone to work all day and then I'm driving home from work about 530. I thought I might just check in on him, see it, hope he hasn't gone home and sort of just collapsed or something. So I ring his sung. Bret Merryfield, he's a good surfer and always out at that spot as well. And I'm like, Bret, how you going, mate? [01:16:32] Speaker E: Hey. [01:16:32] Speaker B: Odsie, how you going, mate? And I'm like, yeah, you're not bad, mate. You spoken to your dad today at he's like, no, I haven't. [01:16:41] Speaker C: Why is that? [01:16:42] Speaker B: And I'm like, oh, well, I sort of had a surf with him today and he got pretty worked out there today. He's like oh, did he? [01:16:50] Speaker E: Yeah. [01:16:50] Speaker B: Right, okay, no, I haven't spoke to him. How works are we talking? I'm like, pretty fucking hammered, mate, to be honest. He copped an absolute flogging, like snap leggy, hold down, full rag doll across the reef, claret everywhere, bleeding from various places. Then Bret's, just like bloody dad. We've all had to talk to him about this. He knows he's not supposed to paddle out when it's big anymore. And that's where the Clive Palmer comes in, because it's that at moment on the phone I've realized I've just dobbed on Kevin, dobbed on the legend where your Clive was coming, and I've just felt that bad Brett's just like, berating him down the phone and I'm just like, I've just dobbed in an absolute pioneer. He's just telling everyone that okay, after this heart surgery, I'll take it easy. And he couldn't help himself. Paddled out on a pump and six foot West Peak day absolutely got flogged. He couldn't have kept it a secret from his missus. He came over covered in blood, he's trying to keep it under wrapped and I fucking just dobbed on him. And no doubt Bret rang him up and chewed his ear off that he's not supposed to be spoke about this, dad, it wouldn't have hurt anything. Right? Yeah, that's right. He's pulled his bloody hearing aid. [01:18:05] Speaker A: Maybe he didn't hear when they said, you can't do this anymore. [01:18:10] Speaker B: The way Bret was speaking on the phone, it was like he was talking about his eight year old kid who's like, mate, you know you're not supposed to be eating ice creams on Mondays and Tuesday nights. He was fully dobbed on Kevin. [01:18:21] Speaker A: No more six foot yelling up, I. [01:18:23] Speaker B: Told you it was a bit of an ingest, Clive. But I still felt like I dobbed on this war horse who just survived a huge beating and I just dobbed on him anyway. And then I got a text from Kev later that night. Yeah, thanks again for helping me, mate. I hope your board's okay, mate. Miraculously, my board didn't have a ding in it. I'm like, what the fuck? The fins are a little bit mate, he was just bellyboarding this thing, land sideways as well. Like sideways, that little reef section. I just thought both fins were going to be not even in it. [01:19:01] Speaker A: Fixed fins. [01:19:02] Speaker B: No, it doesn't. But I thought they would have been snapped out. [01:19:04] Speaker D: Well, that's good. [01:19:06] Speaker B: And then when I picked up my board after, when he was okay and I've gone to jump off the reef, mate, a bit of unwarranted karma, gust of wind, blew my board, smacked me fucking straight in the head. I was just like, Mate, what did I do to deserve that? Maybe he knew I was going to DOB on him. Maybe that's where it was. [01:19:23] Speaker A: Just send Kevin invoice. He can afford some fins for you. [01:19:27] Speaker B: Anyway, so he messages. Thanks, AJ. I'm like, yeah, no worries, man, it's all good. Anyone would have done the same thing. And then he's like, yeah, I'm going to have to pick me spots a bit better from next on. I'm like, oh, mate, it's all good. And then typical, he's reverted back to the classic old man Warhorse, like, so, mate, how's the body? You must have a few bruises, eh? And he's, no, everything's fine. All good. All good, mate. Not even a scratch. [01:19:59] Speaker A: Kev played a number of seasons at a pretty high level, as you know. Freeze. Perth. [01:20:05] Speaker B: CBACO. [01:20:06] Speaker A: CBACO? [01:20:07] Speaker E: Yeah. [01:20:07] Speaker B: I'd be devastated if you heard me. [01:20:08] Speaker A: Say, sorry, Kev, I'm a CBACO fan as well. Maybe it was Damon at CS Perth. Anyway, he's a CBACO legend and they. [01:20:16] Speaker B: Made him take the licks. [01:20:17] Speaker A: Take the licks. Don't worry about that. [01:20:19] Speaker B: He was just fully claiming he was 100% fine. Didn't even have a brewery. [01:20:23] Speaker A: No problem, mate. [01:20:23] Speaker B: Mate, Andy told me about the massive egg on your shin, but he failed to mention that he just fobbed it off. So there you go, a bit of a mixer. [01:20:30] Speaker A: Anyway, let's move on to the Steve Irwin salute. Steve Irwin. Salute. Okay, you got a big one? [01:20:39] Speaker B: No, I don't have a big one. I've got a couple of small ones. [01:20:42] Speaker A: I'm going to go to Ludo, mate. [01:20:43] Speaker E: Okay. [01:20:43] Speaker B: Yeah, okay. As long as T Bone stays, mate. Okay, give me it. Mate, I've got young Eva Gerson. Eva Gerson, she's about a nine year old girl who goes surfing. That's Lukey's daughter, mate. I've been surfing with her plenty this winter with the kids, and she has a unique talent for dancing while surfing. And, mate, she's got a few different types of dancers and names for them. I can't remember the names, but it's just pretty enjoyable to be out there. And she comes zooming past, showing off, doing a few little dances. She's surfing pretty good, catching long waves and, yeah, throwing a few moves down whilst she's on the surfboard. So good on you, Eva. Keep up the good work. Keep up the dancing. Keep up the surfing, mates. Also, got one to Kirby Brown, who the Core Lord that we all know and love from Facing Monsters. If you've seen that film, you know he hurt himself pretty badly and I was just down in his hometown, he's adopted hometown on the south coast recently. Caught up with him, had a couple of surfs with him. Actually had one really enjoyable surf with just me and him at a pretty decent wave. And mate, it was just good to see him back in the water. For a while there, he didn't even know if he was ever going to surf again. It was a pretty serious injury and he's still feeling the repercussions of it a couple of years later. Spinal and skull and brain and all sorts of things have been affected, but it was just awesome to see him surfing and enjoying surfing and the last wave that he got of that session was like a 200 meters burner. He looked good, he looked sharp. He was absolutely flying on his backhand down the line on this thing and just looking good and it was just really nice. [01:22:43] Speaker A: Beard back. [01:22:44] Speaker B: Yeah, his beards, he's trimmed it up a little, but it's still healthy and thick. And, yeah, it was just good to see one of WA's most prolific surfers and the world's craziest slab hunter back in the water and enjoying himself in just normal waves and getting some stoke back from surfing after a pretty crazy time in his life. [01:23:08] Speaker A: So that was still sort of doing lots of PR for the movie or is that sort of done now? [01:23:13] Speaker B: Maybe a little. I think it might have backed off a bit, but there's still stuff going on with it. But, yeah, it was just good to see him. I think before the injury, he probably wasn't enjoying surfing three foot waves, but he's had a reality check, I guess, and it was just nice to see him back in the water and enjoying surfing and Connor waves. What are you talking about, Kirby? Exactly, mates. And yeah, so there's a couple of good. Steves, another quick one. Rosie Gillette, a young female surfer from the area. I'm not sure how old she is, I'm pretty bad at guessing. [01:23:44] Speaker D: Pretty young, yeah. [01:23:45] Speaker B: She'd be somewhere between eight and 13. [01:23:47] Speaker D: No, a bit older than that, I think. [01:23:49] Speaker B: Okay, yeah. See, I told you I'm bad. Ten to 14, I have no idea. Ten to 15, I'm terrible at that. But I know that she's a young female surfer from the area and I did two or three dawnies in a row just before quick ones before work down at the local and mate, she was there. Mum was dropping her off in the dark. Wow, three days in a row, going surfing and just getting a dawny in by herself before school. And I was just loving it, mate. Just seeing a young chick committed to the dawny. [01:24:19] Speaker A: I would love that, mate. [01:24:20] Speaker D: Amazing, mate. [01:24:21] Speaker A: So your favorite sort of thing. [01:24:22] Speaker E: It is. [01:24:22] Speaker B: And they were really nice little sessions and it's good to see a young girl. [01:24:26] Speaker D: What you got to do, you look at, you know first one in the water. Yeah, she yeah, first one in the water anywhere on tour. [01:24:35] Speaker A: First one in the water and then. [01:24:37] Speaker B: Two more quick ones. Panda, the bearded truckee who came up and said hello to me at one of T Bone's favorite breaks. He said he enjoyed driving around the countryside in his truck listening to us three waffle on. So nice work, panda. And same goes for Taryn the plumber from birth who was down with his family and said that he enjoys a bit of banter in the shed as well. And it was nice to get some positive feedback from a couple of crew and we shed a few waves and everyone was happy. [01:25:07] Speaker A: Yeah, sick, man. [01:25:09] Speaker B: Lots of Steve Irwin salutes and fledging shout outs and just general positivity in the world of surfing in West OS. [01:25:16] Speaker D: One nice one. [01:25:17] Speaker B: That's me. [01:25:17] Speaker A: What do you got, tithe man. [01:25:19] Speaker D: I've got a couple too. First one yelling up board riders. Won the board rider regional qualifier. [01:25:27] Speaker A: The needy board riders. [01:25:29] Speaker E: Yep. [01:25:29] Speaker D: The yelling up board riders. So shout out to them so they'll get to go over east. I think it's Burley where they have the big board rider battle. [01:25:36] Speaker B: So second year in a row yelling UP's taken out. That definitely the second time. [01:25:40] Speaker E: Yeah. [01:25:41] Speaker D: Well, they might be Margaret River by fucking a bee stick. [01:25:45] Speaker E: Yeah. [01:25:45] Speaker D: Yep. So they get to go over east and battle that at Burley. So good on yelling up board riders. [01:25:51] Speaker E: Yeah. [01:25:51] Speaker B: Cool. [01:25:53] Speaker D: Another one. An organization called Sungai Watch. I might pronounce that incorrectly, but you probably have Sungai. There is some organization in Indo, in Bali, I believe, and they recently stopped 3000 pounds of plastic going the ocean. So they're trying to stop rubbish plastics. [01:26:17] Speaker A: That's unbelievable. [01:26:18] Speaker D: 3 million pounds of plastic. [01:26:20] Speaker B: 3 million pounds. [01:26:22] Speaker A: Pounds, yeah. [01:26:22] Speaker B: What are they? [01:26:28] Speaker D: Give us Steve Irwin salute. You got to look after our environment. And up there, mate, they fucking need all the help they can. So shout out to Sungai watch. [01:26:41] Speaker A: Yeah, that's epic. [01:26:42] Speaker B: Good on. [01:26:42] Speaker A: Nice one. [01:26:43] Speaker E: What do you got? Nami? [01:26:44] Speaker A: Yeah, it's me. Yeah, so one of our listeners, Scottish Dave, bit of a shout out. He's messaged a couple of times. Just want to give a shout out to Scottish Dave. [01:26:54] Speaker D: Is he from Scotland? [01:26:56] Speaker A: Don't know. [01:26:57] Speaker B: He just went there once. [01:26:58] Speaker A: Just looking at his profile, he's fairly solid wave there. He's ripping it up. [01:27:07] Speaker E: Yeah. [01:27:07] Speaker A: He was saying he really enjoyed the Barry Young podcast. I love you. Yeah, that was out. Yes. He found some footage, VHS footage he took of a comp in 94. I was just about to say the name. I'm not going to say it. At a certain left hand point break up the road, way up the road, about 6 hours. With Ockie, Josh, Pumptier and Margot. Yeah, Scottish Dave, if you've got that footage, mates, hit us up at [email protected] with that, mate. Love to see that. [01:27:48] Speaker B: Post it up. [01:27:49] Speaker A: That'd be epic. And my other the other one I've got here, actually, is from I've got a little message from a good friend of ours called what's his name? His name is Pete Arnold. And Pete Arnold actually gave me the heads up on that situation that you had with Kevin Merrifield. And he did say that as Kennedy nomination for Steve Elwin Sleep, because apparently your work and your efforts you're pretty humble about it, mate, but apparently your efforts in giving Kev a hand were second to none. So congratulations on doing the right thing and helping a digger out in the mate. [01:28:33] Speaker E: Yeah. [01:28:33] Speaker A: So thanks, Arnie. [01:28:34] Speaker B: Arnie was out there that day, but I think he might have gone in by the time that happened. [01:28:38] Speaker D: But nice work. [01:28:39] Speaker B: Arnie would have done the know Greenie was out there, he would have done the same. I just did it a bit quicker. [01:28:45] Speaker A: I think most people would have done the same. But you're out there and you did the work and you helped. A legend of our scene. Kev merrifield. So this week, Steve Elance got to be goes to Ads. [01:28:58] Speaker B: I won it, even though beautiful. I should maybe get the Clive for dobbin on him as well, though. Can I win? [01:29:04] Speaker A: Both yeah, of course you can. [01:29:05] Speaker E: Sick. [01:29:06] Speaker A: No, I think there was or gets Clive for what were you saying? [01:29:14] Speaker B: Just Mickey ploughman pages of it. [01:29:18] Speaker A: All right, so we are going to wrap this one up. I would like to thank each and every one of you from Slovenia to New Zealand to wherever you are listening in the world. We just hit the number one position for our category in Slovenia, which is pretty funny. [01:29:33] Speaker D: Heard they got a big, strong female surfing community. [01:29:36] Speaker A: They do. G'day slovenian. Legends. Flexends. Good to have you on board, Viking. I like. [01:29:46] Speaker B: There you go. [01:29:48] Speaker A: What sea is it's? A black sea. They get waves there. [01:29:53] Speaker B: At least they'd be cold. [01:29:54] Speaker A: Yeah, super cold, but yeah. Thanks for listening and please support our sponsors. Cheeky Monkey Brewing Forester Estate AG One. We've got Shark Eyes, the best wetsuits in the land. And if you do need any tweaking of your buddy, go and see the absolute legends at Down South Physio. They're the best in business. Good on you, Trev. [01:30:18] Speaker B: And if you need any tweaking of your home loans, go see Namu. [01:30:20] Speaker E: Yeah. [01:30:21] Speaker A: Dunbay Home Loans. [01:30:21] Speaker D: If you need any tweaking of your. [01:30:23] Speaker B: Plumbing systems, adam Kennedy Plumbing, Ads Plumbing, I'm there. [01:30:28] Speaker A: All right, boys, before we go, any final words? [01:30:31] Speaker B: If you need any tweaking of your safety glasses, t Bone will personally come around and adjust them correctly for you. [01:30:38] Speaker D: Now, I want to give a shout out to Joby Ltd. Living the dream. New safety eyewear coming soon. [01:30:47] Speaker E: Yeah. [01:30:47] Speaker B: Look out, for more stylish version. [01:30:49] Speaker A: I've got a set. [01:30:50] Speaker D: Yeah, got a set. [01:30:51] Speaker A: Got any samples for us? [01:30:54] Speaker D: You don't need safety glasses, Neme, unless some sparks are coming off your keyboard at work, mate. [01:30:58] Speaker B: You should have seen that fast. [01:31:00] Speaker A: You should have seen me on the mountain bike trails down at Nana today. Some safety glasses have been good for that. Got to protect your noggin when you're fucking zipping down the trails, bro. [01:31:10] Speaker D: I have a word of joby. Hey, but Fantasy, did we talk about who won the Barrel Surf podcast? Fantasy? [01:31:17] Speaker E: Yeah. [01:31:17] Speaker A: Yeah, we did last time. So I've reached out to I can't. [01:31:22] Speaker D: Even think it was Chicken Joe Surf Club. [01:31:24] Speaker A: No, it wasn't chicken Joe. But I messaged everything on the Instagrams and let's just go back to who it was you guys just talking about fuck Fantasy. [01:31:37] Speaker B: We all did shit. [01:31:38] Speaker D: I did really well in JBay. That was my best comp of the year. [01:31:41] Speaker B: I think I missed like three out of the last four comps just through being out of range, being up north and just blowing it. So I did have one good comp, though. Was it Portugal? Where? I think I picked maybe. I definitely picked the winner. Female. Maybe even the men's as well. [01:31:59] Speaker D: Did you actually win the actual league? [01:32:03] Speaker B: I think you got that. Yeah, I won our league for that, but that was about it for me for the year in Fantasy. But I'll be looking to roll again next year and hopefully Namu Can. [01:32:16] Speaker A: I did reach out to the winner. I'm sorry, I can't think of the name, but I will. [01:32:20] Speaker B: He knows who he is. [01:32:21] Speaker A: I've got his address and we're going to send him a prize pack. Sorry, bud, haven't done it yet. But it did take me a little while to get my prize when I won the Lipped Podcast League. [01:32:32] Speaker B: Well, we don't have to be the. [01:32:33] Speaker A: Same like G'day, Jimmy, Kale and Harry and all, right. Anything else, Azzy? [01:32:39] Speaker B: Nah, man. Yeah, looks like spring might be in the air, so hopefully that means a few good surfs coming up for us in the southwest of WA and hopefully everywhere else around Australia. I hope spring delivers you some waves as well, as well as around the world, but spring is usually pretty good all around odds. [01:32:59] Speaker A: Sure is. Everyone rips in T Bone's off to Bali tomorrow, so enjoy that, mate. [01:33:03] Speaker D: See you boys in just shy of three. Get back. [01:33:10] Speaker B: T Bone might even be coming back with some Trucker Barrel podcast. [01:33:14] Speaker E: Is that right? Yeah. [01:33:15] Speaker D: Well, I said to them, let's do it, and they gave me a two to three week turnover. [01:33:20] Speaker E: Yeah, cool. [01:33:20] Speaker D: So I said I gave them my drop dead date, so I'm waiting for them to reply. [01:33:26] Speaker E: Sweet. [01:33:26] Speaker D: So I'll get 50 OD caps. Going to get a couple of different varieties. [01:33:32] Speaker E: Yeah, cool. [01:33:32] Speaker A: Sounds good. [01:33:33] Speaker B: Are you going to get any of those ones with the string where the ears flap up and down, by any chance? [01:33:37] Speaker E: Yeah. [01:33:38] Speaker D: Cool. [01:33:38] Speaker E: Yeah. [01:33:39] Speaker B: Just making sure. [01:33:40] Speaker A: Looking forward to the Changas starting up in a couple of weeks time. Come on, Chippo. You got this, brother. You got this. And also, Bronte McCauley, you got this as well, mate. You got it. You got it. Be kind to each other. Check in on your friends. See how they're going. See if they're okay. We just had. Are you okay? Day million, Barrett said. [01:34:01] Speaker B: Podcast. [01:34:02] Speaker A: Thanks for listening. [01:34:10] Speaker C: Sail cranked it up and I sang along. It was such a way out day, I made up my mind. You kept some rainforest enforcer the sea. The girl and the way step. It occurs to me there's no to. You so grab a girl and grab your damn your opinion, your new Ray dance I'll be dressed, baby, no. And dreaming of A-T-O it for serve Jesus, the girl and the town the way new wave. Then suddenly it occurs to me there's no here's. We'll be cruising through the Burger and if we wind up leaving back we'll stay out late you drink and try enforcer you it for the sea the girl and the waves new ways there's not a way. It occurs to me there's no can hear.

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